http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy

This was interesting

the reason why i would say the story is false or misinterpreted is becuase he offered his duaghters to have sex outside of marriage, which back in those days was a big NO, NO. so by him giving them up to a homosexual man to "cure" his homosexuality and sin he was just replacing it with another sin pre marital sex. and as the bible says sin is sin. so what good was Lot doing. also i find it hard to believe that some one would think if a homosexual had sex with the opposite sex they would stop being homosexual. nah, i dont think that story is true.

Why do most people look to the story of Sodom as proof that Homosexuality is a sin? God made His intentions for man very clear in the first few chapters of Genesis.

Vicky:

Show me where in Greek history they used the term "hermaphrodite" or the term "lesbian".

Bahmaboy:

Lot's daughters also had sex with him. That's called incest.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 18:29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1 Corinthians 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Why do most people look to the story of Sodom as proof that Homosexuality is a sin? God made His intentions for man very clear in the first few chapters of Genesis.



exactly delroy, accourding to the bible homosexuality is a sin. no getting around it. many gay people have a problem accepting that fact. there was a show on cnbc last night about the issue, it was produce by the same guy that did Super Size Me. anyway it was a very good and informative documentary

I think the problem with this issue is that some people (homosexual and heterosexual) cant accept the fact it is an issue some people will never be able to accept and agree with, point black.

I think the problem with this issue is that some people (homosexual and heterosexual) cant accept the fact it is an issue some people will never be able to accept and agree with, point black.


i personally dont care what others think about BLT ,whats the other letter, anyway and i can accept whatever the persons opinions is. there is only one area where i cant accept someones opinion and that is on the issue of choice, i am a pretty open minded person who doesnt stick to his guns no matter what. ie if someone can persuade me to their side of the argument then i will admit that i think i was wrong. so far no one has suffeciently pursueded me that people purposly choose to live that way.

I think the problem with this issue is that some people (homosexual and heterosexual) cant accept the fact it is an issue some people will never be able to accept and agree with, point black.

This is true some people won't. These are the people that need hate in their lives. Just like there will always be raciest as well.

Vicky:

Show me where in Greek history they used the term "hermaphrodite" or the term "lesbian".
I already posted where these words came from try reading.
Bahmaboy:

Lot's daughters also had sex with him. That's called incest.

Would the Jews have used Hermaphrodite?? You are all over the arena. What does that have to do with anything. The Greeks probably didn't use the word "hermaphrodite". Just like they didn't use homosexual or lesbian.



I know exactly where the words *CAME* from. I didn't *ASK YOU WHERE THEY CAME FROM*. I am *FAR FAR FAR* from stupid.

Again...I asked, if you can't read for yourself.

DID THE GREEKS USE THE WORD HERMAPHRODITE IN THEIR EVERYDAY LANGUAGE OR THE WORD LESBIAN IN THEIR EVERYDAY LANGUAGE!!!

Even the smallest brain owner will tell you the answer is no. Hermaphrodite and Lesbian are english words derived from Greek words.

BIG BIG DIFFERENCE!!! So why you would ask if the Jews would use such terms is point blank stupid because the Greeks didn't use these words to define hermaphrodites or lesbians. You again, are running off on a tantrum of idiocy to mask your psychosis.

I know exactly where the words *CAME* from. I didn't *ASK YOU WHERE THEY CAME FROM*. I am *FAR FAR FAR* from stupid.

Again...I asked, if you can't read for yourself.

DID THE GREEKS USE THE WORD HERMAPHRODITE IN THEIR EVERYDAY LANGUAGE OR THE WORD LESBIAN IN THEIR EVERYDAY LANGUAGE!!!

Even the smallest brain owner will tell you the answer is no. Hermaphrodite and Lesbian are english words derived from Greek words.

BIG BIG DIFFERENCE!!! So why you would ask if the Jews would use such terms is point blank stupid because the Greeks didn't use these words to define hermaphrodites or lesbians. You again, are running off on a tantrum of idiocy to mask your psychosis. :eek:

I know exactly where the words *CAME* from. I didn't *ASK YOU WHERE THEY CAME FROM*. I am *FAR FAR FAR* from stupid.

Again...I asked, if you can't read for yourself.

DID THE GREEKS USE THE WORD HERMAPHRODITE IN THEIR EVERYDAY LANGUAGE OR THE WORD LESBIAN IN THEIR EVERYDAY LANGUAGE!!!

Even the smallest brain owner will tell you the answer is no. Hermaphrodite and Lesbian are english words derived from Greek words.

BIG BIG DIFFERENCE!!! So why you would ask if the Jews would use such terms is point blank stupid because the Greeks didn't use these words to define hermaphrodites or lesbians. You again, are running off on a tantrum of idiocy to mask your psychosis.


you make me laugh
That is what is in the post if you read it DUH.
Let me try and help you agan.

hermofrodite
[Middle English hermofrodite, from Medieval Latin hermofrodtus, from Latin Hermaphrodtus, Hermaphroditus, hermaphrodite. See Hermaphroditus.]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=hermaphrodite
Lesbian
[From the putative homosexuality of Sappho, lyric poet of Lesbos.]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Lesbian
same thing with sinister
[Middle English sinistre, unfavorable, from Old French, from Latin sinister, on the left, unlucky.]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sinister

Just as the meaning of gay has been adapted.

let me add
Sodomite
Deuteronomy 23:17 (King James Version)
17There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

From the Hebrew Bible the Torah (The sorce of the Old Testament)
http://www.breslov.com/bible/Deuteronomy23.htm#17
Deuteronomy 23:17
he shall dwell with thee, in the midst of thee, in the place which he shall choose within one of thy gates, where it liketh him best; thou shalt not wrong him.

HHHHHhhhhmmm something is a muck they are nto the same....

How do you guys deal with this person??

Hermaphroditus was the name of a person. It is not what the Greeks called hermaphrodites.

Lesbos was the name of a place. It is not what Greeks called lesbians.

You suggested that the Jews didn't use the word "hermaphrodite" to describe a person. Of course not, neither did the Greeks. That doesn't mean they didn't have a word for it. That word just wasn't hermaphrodite or lesbian. Those are english words that we adopted as english speakers.

How do you guys deal with this person??

Hermaphroditus was the name of a person. Was the name of Hermes and Aphrodite son. Both were gods not persons which was transformed in a half man half woman.It is not what the Greeks called hermaphrodites.

Lesbos was the name of a place. It is not what Greeks called lesbians.

You suggested that the Jews didn't use the word "hermaphrodite" to describe a person. Of course not, neither did the Greeks. That doesn't mean they didn't have a word for it. That word just wasn't hermaphrodite or lesbian. Those are english words that we adopted as english speakers.

Exactly. Same thing with the word sodomy, Sodomite and gay.
But what did they call some one born with ambiguous sex back then?????
What would they have called some one with undescended testis????
What would they call some one born 3-Beta Hydroxysteroid Dehydrogenase Deficiency,

Wow you are a real learning experience.
Since debating with you I have found more info Thank so much.

I am more convinced that,

I Am that I Am created me as I am.

I am free, freer than free that is man defined.

Say what you want about me, dehumanize all you like, destroy the body, or even release the life force, it is all for the purpose of the Creator. I smile and say you can never change that.

Please try again