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finekameo
07-12-05, - 04:10 PM
i agree with marichal. being gay means you are exclusively into the same sex. a person can not be gay and have sex with the opposite sex. having sex with the opposite sex makes a person a bi-sexual.


I find this so amusing. Yes, being gay means you are "into" the same sex. I use "into" in this sense meaning that you are emotionally attracted to a person. While you may happen to be sexually attracted to a person of the same sex as well, more importantly is you are capable of being in an emotional relationship with a person. I can assure you that it is quite possible for a man that calls himself gay to be sexually aroused by someone of the opposite sex. Being aroused is a mechanical function.

Vicky
07-12-05, - 04:11 PM
HMmmmmmmmmmmmm! Sometimes you are so dense it amazes me :biggie:.Please read carefully before you respond,especially to something that was not directed at you. FYI: The debate was HOW COULD TWO HOMOSEXUALS REPRODUCE. The operative word being TWO.

Your post Please note you did not say 2. There are those even in heterosexuals that have more than 1 mate. Like a man with a few wives or a woman with a few husbands. Now that you are clear its cool.

:uh: WELLLLLLLL I'm one of those Idiots.Please EXPLAIN to the SLOW how the so called GAY mates will allow them to reproduce.

Vicky
07-12-05, - 04:33 PM
Plus I would like to know how the hell a lesbian or homo-sexual can have sex with the opposite sex? Wouldn't that make them bi-sexual & also change the definition of gay? [/B] :sarcastic

Ok that is a gray area I might be able to help with.
Lets say a gay male couple wants a child and 1 or the other is the sperm donner.
One way or another the sperm has to get into a womans vagina. Now if one of the men has sex with her to do this technically it makes him bisexual. But in the GLBT understanding it does not make them bisexual. If you are allergic to strawberries and you eat them anyway are you any less allergic to them. NO.
One is a bisexual when one is attracted to both male and female.
One is a tranny chaser when one is attracted to transgender. (just thought I would throw that in.)

Vicky
07-12-05, - 04:36 PM
Agreed...Point goes to Marichal on that one. But calm down a bit Marichal, don't let anybody frustrate you.

Question to Vicky...what is the try again thing all about? What should they try again? :uh:

its just a tease with a smile nothing more.

Vicky
07-12-05, - 04:44 PM
Homosexual
Heterosexual
Bi-sexual


These are sexual preferences. Not sexual designations. I'm a sexual creature who prefers having sex with the female gender of my species. OOOoooo so you like females with a penis??? Or men with vagainas???? Or are you attracted to female gender with female sex. AKA GG. You have to be careful with what you say. That is all homosexual means -- a preference. A lot of psychologists argue that bi-sexuality doesn't exist because there is no preference.


Marichal:

Don't take your insecurities out on me. I never said two homosexuals could reproduce. Homosexuals however can reproduce. Its silly to think otherwise. Almost as silly as thinking that in order to reproduce one has to be attracted to females. All you need to reproduce are functioning reproductive organs. Sexual preferences are socialized.

bahmaboy
07-12-05, - 05:41 PM
I find this so amusing. Yes, being gay means you are "into" the same sex. I use "into" in this sense meaning that you are emotionally attracted to a person. While you may happen to be sexually attracted to a person of the same sex as well, more importantly is you are capable of being in an emotional relationship with a person. I can assure you that it is quite possible for a man that calls himself gay to be sexually aroused by someone of the opposite sex. Being aroused is a mechanical function.


i kinda get where you coming from. but in my book a truely gay person can not be turned on by the opposite sex. in the same way a true hetrosexual person cant be turned on by the same sex. THEY JUST DONT DO IT FOR YA. being gay means you have absolutly no desire for the opposite sex. a person, especially a man, that claims to be gay but can get it up for a female (sorry, i tred to make that as clean as possible). in my book is a bi sexual. bi sexual means both male and female does the trick for ya. to those phycologist that says bi sexual dont have a preference, how can they say that when clearly they prefer to have both and not just one.

i have one thing to clear up about your post. are you trying to say that if a person is emotionaly and sexually attracted to the same sex but only sexualy attracted to the opposite sex then they are gay but if they are sexualy attracted to the same sex and emotionaly and sexually attraced to the opposite sex then they are straight?

Ting-um
07-12-05, - 07:54 PM
Ok the what did they want with the men in Lots home????
Since the men were not homosexual????


God doesn't hate the sinner. God hates the sin. The sin is engaging in homosexual behavior. They wanted to engage in homosexual sex with the men in Lot's home. That doesn't stop them from wanting or being able to engage in heterosexual sex.

OOOoooo so you like females with a penis??? Or men with vagainas???? Or are you attracted to female gender with female sex. AKA GG. You have to be careful with what you say.

I like females. I don't like fat females. I don't like stinky breathe females. But, I like females. That's quite simple. I'm not confused. You cannot confuse me.

Ting-um
07-12-05, - 07:56 PM
I find this so amusing. Yes, being gay means you are "into" the same sex. I use "into" in this sense meaning that you are emotionally attracted to a person. While you may happen to be sexually attracted to a person of the same sex as well, more importantly is you are capable of being in an emotional relationship with a person. I can assure you that it is quite possible for a man that calls himself gay to be sexually aroused by someone of the opposite sex. Being aroused is a mechanical function.



Somebody else with a brain.

Vicky
07-13-05, - 12:52 AM
God doesn't hate the sinner. God hates the sin. The sin is engaging in homosexual behavior. They wanted to engage in homosexual sex with the men in Lot's home. That doesn't stop them from wanting or being able to engage in heterosexual sex.
So you are saying the men out side wanted to have sex with the men inside. But did the men inside want to have sex with the men outside????


I like females. I don't like fat females. I don't like stinky breathe females. But, I like females. That's quite simple. I'm not confused. You cannot confuse me.

Vicky
07-13-05, - 12:56 AM
Somebody else with a brain.

arousal and even climax is a mechanical. Attraction is not.
Ever heard of a "glory hole"? Well you don't know if its a male or female on the other side.

bahmaboy
07-13-05, - 01:28 AM
arousal and even climax is a mechanical. Attraction is not.
Ever heard of a "glory hole"? Well you don't know if its a male or female on the other side.



exactly, thats what i am thinking vicky. there has to be some kind of attraction first before there is arousal. especially for a man, he has to see something that turns him on first before the "mechanics" kick in.

Ting-um
07-13-05, - 06:04 AM
Bahmaboy:

Has your girl ever had sex with you while you were asleep?? Mine has.

Vicky:

Did you see what happened to the city of Sodom?? That should answer your question.

Vicky
07-13-05, - 08:43 AM
Bahmaboy:

Has your girl ever had sex with you while you were asleep?? Mine has.

Vicky:

Did you see what happened to the city of Sodom?? That should answer your question.

Don't cop out on this one. Did the men inside lots house want to have sex with the men outside????

Vicky
07-13-05, - 08:47 AM
Bahmaboy:

Has your girl ever had sex with you while you were asleep?? Mine has.


Uh duh uh humans can become aroused in their sleep. The human male can have erections thru the night. That is only more proof of mechanics.

Ting-um
07-13-05, - 09:44 AM
You ask really stupid questions. I suppose you are confused and you think you can confuse others. Sorry, try again.

Angels are "asexual". They don't *WANT* sex with anybody.



So far you are arguing against yourself.

1. You say that there's a "glory hole" where its possible for a man not to be aware that he is with a male or female.

2. Now you suggest, that the man *HAS* to be conscious of who he is having sex with for the engagement to be legitimized.

Those are contradictory statements. My point is, my attraction is a mental configuration due to socialization. If my girl is having sex with me, I am aroused because I have a mental picture of the stimuli. Same with all sexual encounters. The arousal is based on a mental configuration of stimuli. Just like hunger pains, when you smell a certain type of food. Even if you are hungry, if you smell spinach and you hate the taste of spinach -- you won't be enticed to eat the food. Regardless of what it looks like. Same thing with sex. There are women that look manly, no matter how much they try to prove that they are female -- my attraction won't kick in. There are men that look feminine, a lot of straight men fall in love with what they believe to be female.