i'll respond to your answers when they stop from straying the topic!
your responses are meandering and misleading to the stream of the topic.


btw...eating a dog in this society is seen as a perverse form of animal treatment...i knew what you meant, you just are to interested in spinning the web which fulfills your agenda...typical!

and in a religious sense..MARRIAGE is made for a man and a woman...the laws of most all societies from time and beyond were built on religious ethics.
we dont have to if we dont want to!!!
as long as the majority people believe in the bible, quran and the torah...we will have the majority against homosexual marriage..PERIOD.

vicky and the gays do not rule the world!
;)
My agenda is for people to research their faith, its history translations and interpretations. I would like people to think for them selves. Just because everyone thought the world is flat did not make it so. I ask people to consider a few thoughts.
Do you really think someone got up 1 morning and said to them selves I am gay???

Did you get up 1 morning and say you self I will be heterosexual????? I ask you to be honest with this answer??

I speak from my own experience as to my gender identity. I know I learned what I was just as any other child did. Same time in your life you were coming to understand what it was to be a boy I was understanding girl.
However I quickly found out I had to lie and pretend to be a boy. I played boy fairly well.

Science has made strides in human sexuality and gender identity, but a lot of people are being convinced that these scientists are lying. They are being told to believe the world is still flat.

As I said in a letter I wrote to the editor of the Guardian. If because of tradition people want to keep marriage to be between male and female so be it. But legal accommodation must be made for the rights of Bahamian citizens that want to live and share their lives together. Call it what you want Civil union, domestic union, or what ever. As Citizens of the Bahamas we are free from religious discrimination and the laws should reflect this.


Sorry y2kbad the people that believe in the Bible Quran and Torah are a minority compared to other religions. Not to mention those that don’t practice religion of any kind.

Sorry y2kbad the people that believe in the Bible Quran and Torah are a minority compared to other religions. Not to mention those that don’t practice religion of any kind.

in this part of the world...
they are the majority!

see..you dont understand this important fact...
YOU CANT FORCE ANYONE GROUP TO BEND TO THE WILL OF YOU!!!

if we dont want to...damnit we dont want to!!!

like i said..if you want to eat puppies and kittens..then go to korea!!!
but we just wont and will not do it here...
our beleifs, and standards are a different than those of any where else!!
not to say that people are not doing it allready..but undercover...and against the law.
you cant expect for a leader, who leads the majority, as picked by democratic elections to bend otherwise to the will of the minority for the sake of the majority!

its what makes us different....
you can and never will change that!!!

i asked you if you would leave to go to korea and wherever it is...
you said never...and i dont blame you.. :D ...but suck up the way we have this thing going!
there are alot of things i want to see done...doesnt make me right, and it doesnt make me bitter...i take the good with the bad....and move on!

if we dont want to do anything or arent ready...then we just wont do it!
and with our social structure....we never will bend to homosexuality!!
doesnt make us ignorant..just makes us ..US!!!

just a side bar for you, you know we have the fatsest turn over of middle aged christians in the world...more people turn to their faith as they get older, and guess what faith dominates this country..and the western hemisphere??
CHRISTIANITY!!! :bye:

i think if you put homosexual marriage up for refferendum...you probably will get a landslide victory for no homo marriage...
even if the bahamian people are educated on the factors...
we just have our own beleifs..your parlimentarian has their own beliefs!!

civil unions and marriage are two totaly differnt things..and i think i made refference for the need for legal understanding to their plight!

alls i said is if the govt wants to go with something else..they have an avenue in which they can..nothing personal, just political strategy!
:cheesy:

in this part of the world...
they are the majority!

see..you dont understand this important fact...
YOU CANT FORCE ANYONE GROUP TO BEND TO THE WILL OF YOU!!!
The minority of Blacks in the US stood up for their rights and are still doing so to this day. Minorities can stand up for their rights.

if we dont want to...damnit we dont want to!!!
If we want to damnit we want to

like i said..if you want to eat puppies and kittens..then go to korea!!!
but we just wont and will not do it here...
our beleifs, and standards are a different than those of any where else!!
not to say that people are not doing it allready..but undercover...and against the law.
you cant expect for a leader, who leads the majority, as picked by democratic elections to bend otherwise to the will of the minority for the sake of the majority!

its what makes us different....
you can and never will change that!!!

i asked you if you would leave to go to korea and wherever it is...
you said never...and i dont blame you.. :D ...but suck up the way we have this thing going!
there are alot of things i want to see done...doesnt make me right, and it doesnt make me bitter...i take the good with the bad....and move on!

if we dont want to do anything or arent ready...then we just wont do it!
and with our social structure....we never will bend to homosexuality!!
doesnt make us ignorant..just makes us ..US!!!

just a side bar for you, you know we have the fatsest turn over of middle aged christians in the world...more people turn to their faith as they get older, and guess what faith dominates this country..and the western hemisphere??
CHRISTIANITY!!! :bye:

i think if you put homosexual marriage up for refferendum...you probably will get a landslide victory for no homo marriage...
even if the bahamian people are educated on the factors...
we just have our own beleifs..your parlimentarian has their own beliefs!!



That is so true the majority does rule. For those that look in the other direction when the evidence is put in front of them they are no better than the people that lived in 1492 that insisted the world was flat. As decreed by the Church

If you say Bible values and want to hold that against homosexuality maybe yes. But if you can't live by all Bible values don't think I will live by the ones you pick and choose. Now if you say Christian Values I say please point out where Christ made any reference to homosexuality.

If people followed the rules of the church from the beginning, Indians would still inhabit The Bahamas. They would have not been murdered in the Christ. If we followed the church from the beginning we would not have blood transfusions. We probably would not have aspirin. Remember Christians murdered people that knew bush medicine in the name of Christ. They called them witches. Left-handed people murdered in the name of Christ.
It’s just our turn for the church to pick on us. The Christianity you speak of is built on HATE and FEAR, Not LOVE and RESPECT.

When and how did you choose to be heterosexual???

civil unions and marriage are two totaly differnt things..and i think i made refference for the need for legal understanding to their plight!

alls i said is if the govt wants to go with something else..they have an avenue in which they can..nothing personal, just political strategy!
:cheesy:

I have said this many a time its not the word that is important its the rights that are important.

I have said this many a time its not the word that is important its the rights that are important.

and the rights of the majority must be preserved!

and the rights of the majority must be preserved!

In a true democracy it is in fact the rights of the minority that have to be protected against the assaults of the majority. The majority rules, but not at the expense of the minority.

In a true democracy it is in fact the rights of the minority that have to be protected against the assaults of the majority. The majority rules, but not at the expense of the minority.

the minority is preserved when they dont break the laws of the land!

the minority is preserved when they dont break the laws of the land!

The Laws of the land should respect all people and be equal to all people. Reguadless of the faith of others. If it should be as you say the Taliban was with in its rights. Y2kbad you better pray we don't end up with a Christian form of the Taliban here in the Bahamas.

The Laws of the land should respect all people and be equal to all people. Reguadless of the faith of others. If it should be as you say the Taliban was with in its rights. Y2kbad you better pray we don't end up with a Christian form of the Taliban here in the Bahamas.


the taliban was the taliban, the afghans were the afghans...
as for christianity..been there done that, just read your history!

but as for now...christianity and judaesim is a far lot better than 500 years ago!
and some things still remain the same...no murder for free....bo stealing and no homosexuality...gatta love a religion that sticks to most of its guns!!

and with that YOU SHOULD DEAL WITH PEOPLE FAIRLY...NOT EQUALLY!
you dont deserve equal to me, because you may not have done or deserve what i have, for what i did for it!

as for picking and choosing what to live by...seems as if you are doing the same thing, arent you picking and cjoosing what you want to live by by condoning something that is clearly agaisnt christian law!
:confused:
nothing wrong with your oppinion...we all cant be perfect, and we all hold some things more to than others, but dont critisize people for having a slightly different value base, than you do, becasue we dont follow what you want us to follow.
like i said, hold a refferendum, and see who all will be for it...regardless of the information given! ;)

yes, the blacks the chinese and the latinos stood up for their rights..but ultimately it had to be the mass majority of the people "white" in the right place, deserving enough to change their minds.
with that..i didnt choose my color or my race..but i can choose where and what i eat, and who i sleep with....take your consequences!!
I do when i eat a burger, or decide i want a one night stand...and to be honest, if i do, its none of anyones bussiness...gays should learn that it is their bussiness...not ours!
:angel:

i pray that people like you arent let loose wholesale on this country...

the taliban was the taliban, the afghans were the afghans...
as for christianity..been there done that, just read your history!

but as for now...christianity and judaesim is a far lot better than 500 years ago!
and some things still remain the same...no murder for free....bo stealing and no homosexuality...gatta love a religion that sticks to most of its guns!!

Sorry check your history. Persecution of homosexuals is just in the past few (may be 200) years.


and with that YOU SHOULD DEAL WITH PEOPLE FAIRLY...NOT EQUALLY!
you dont deserve equal to me, because you may not have done or deserve what i have, for what i did for it!

Ok I get it so as a human you might be better than I. HHHmm your blood is redder maybe or is the color of your eyes better. When you feel love you feel it more. Oh and when you live your life is worth more than mine.


as for picking and choosing what to live by...seems as if you are doing the same thing, arent you picking and cjoosing what you want to live by by condoning something that is clearly agaisnt christian law!


I choose to live by the teachings of Christ (aka the words in red) all the rest of the Bible are not the teachings of Christ and there for only history and the writings and opinions of Paul a man that never knew Christ who walked the earth. I am not a paulist I do not practice paulianity
Y2kbad not Christian law. Christ never said 1 thing not 1 in reference to homosexuality. I might be wrong but I don't think Christ said that anything he taught was a law.


:confused:
nothing wrong with your oppinion...we all cant be perfect, and we all hold some things more to than others, but dont critisize people for having a slightly different value base, than you do, becasue we dont follow what you want us to follow.

Y2kbad There is nothing wrong with your oppinion...we all cant be perfect, and we all hold some things more to than others, but dont critisize people for having a slightly different value base, than you do, becasue we dont follow what you want us to follow. :cutie:



like i said, hold a refferendum, and see who all will be for it...regardless of the information given! ;)

yes, the blacks the chinese and the latinos stood up for their rights..but ultimately it had to be the mass majority of the people "white" in the right place, deserving enough to change their minds.
with that..i didnt choose my color or my race..but i can choose where and what i eat, and who i sleep with....take your consequences!!
I do when i eat a burger, or decide i want a one night stand...and to be honest, if i do, its none of anyones bussiness...gays should learn that it is their bussiness...not ours!
:angel:

i pray that people like you arent let loose wholesale on this country...


That right people like me who stand up for their rights and all of the people who stand/stood up for their rights are wrong. You are the only person who should have the right to eat what you want, sleep with who you want, dress as you want, and love who you want.

You must remember 1 thing how many GLBT are in this country. How many of us have families that love and support us. Not to mention our friends. Oh and lets not forget all the people that think for them selves. You know the ones that have seen more than 7 by 21 The ones that respect people for being human.

This is a country of freedom of choice, freedom of and from religion.

:bahamas:

Sorry check your history. Persecution of homosexuals is just in the past few (may be 200) years.
i was making refference to christianity in general...just as you were making refference to the taliban being a hi-jacked form of islam...just following your wandering as usual!



Ok I get it so as a human you might be better than I. HHHmm your blood is redder maybe or is the color of your eyes better. When you feel love you feel it more. Oh and when you live your life is worth more than mine.
we didnt say better...but definatly not equal....everyones life is special to him or her, and special to thier creator, its up to you what you do with it!
but since you mention it...i do feel you feel that you are better than the average christian becasue of your tone...who doesnt agree with you is ignorant, obtuse and small minded!



I choose to live by the teachings of Christ (aka the words in red) all the rest of the Bible are not the teachings of Christ and there for only history and the writings and opinions of Paul a man that never knew Christ who walked the earth. I am not a paulist I do not practice paulianity
Y2kbad not Christian law. Christ never said 1 thing not 1 in reference to homosexuality. I might be wrong but I don't think Christ said that anything he taught was a law.
and thats good for you that you follow the teachings in red ;) ...i try to follow all of the examples put to me in the book from start to finish...im short on alot of things..but nonetheless i try...i never pick out one from the other to obey and follow...but since you read ONLY the red...at least you read some of it, and thats better than none!


Y2kbad There is nothing wrong with your oppinion...we all cant be perfect, and we all hold some things more to than others, but dont critisize people for having a slightly different value base, than you do, becasue we dont follow what you want us to follow. :cutie:
well...understand that the majority of the bahmian peoples oppinions wont allow for homosexual marriage...they dont want it in their laws..and with the majority, unless there is a great awakeing, their will never be!
EVEN IN THE OVER ZEALOUSNESS...we show true shape on the laws of the bible...and in fact, quite honorable and fair as to dispensing it...compared to others!



That right people like me who stand up for their rights and all of the people who stand/stood up for their rights are wrong. You are the only person who should have the right to eat what you want, sleep with who you want, dress as you want, and love who you want.
i dont follow you here?????

You must remember 1 thing how many GLBT are in this country. How many of us have families that love and support us. Not to mention our friends. Oh and lets not forget all the people that think for them selves. You know the ones that have seen more than 7 by 21 The ones that respect people for being human.

This is a country of freedom of choice, freedom of and from religion.

:bahamas:
im not sure what GLBT stands for...but i hope they pay taxes, and respect the law!
this country is freedom and choice, and you have the choice to follow THE LAW or leave!
get with it...
or stay with out it...
like i said...you have the freedom to sleep and eat whatever and whoever you want, its not something you are forced to do...
if you want to worship satan in your room...you have the extreme right to.
but you dont have the right to do it in public with out consent form the govt..
and you dont have the consent to force it on anyone else!!

PUT IT TO A REFFERENDUM..AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!! :D
why are they afraid of it...homosexuals????
...know why, because they know it wont fly and never will fly!!!
that is why they try to abuse the court system and its requiremnt to give it equal....now thats true perversion and manipulation of the human mind and spirrit!
:bahamas: :bahamas: :bahamas: :bahamas: :bahamas: :bahamas: :bahamas:

Y2kbad have you seen the constitution reform booklet?????

ref y2kbad i dont follow you here?????

i pray that people like you arent let loose wholesale on this country...



Vickys responce
That right people like me who stand up for their rights and all of the people who stand/stood up for their rights are wrong. You are the only person who should have the right to eat what you want, sleep with who you want, dress as you want, and love who you want.

ref y2kbad i dont follow you here?????

i pray that people like you arent let loose wholesale on this country...



Vickys responce
That right people like me who stand up for their rights and all of the people who stand/stood up for their rights are wrong. You are the only person who should have the right to eat what you want, sleep with who you want, dress as you want, and love who you want.

when will you understand that no one is stopping you :screw: .....the only thing we are stopping you from doing is trying to force us to abide by your rules..for what ever reason!