Timeline: Christianity, Judaism, Islam

[Delroy]

OK, now that everyone has had a chance to vent, I have a few questions.
Adam and Eve were created, what was the proposed (by GOD) doctrine/religion mandated by GOD at that time? and why did God wait so long to give us Jesus?

In the beginning there was no definition of "religion" as we know today. Only one God (Jehovah) and one master to serve. Religion came about as man decided to serve themselves instead of the One who created them.

God's plan was never for Jesus to come to earth. Christ coming to earth was a result of man's sin. His purpose was to destroy sin and restore man back to God.

[Lurker]

God's plan was never for Jesus to come to earth. Christ coming to earth was a result of man's sin.




Why didn't God see that coming?

[CG]

I dont mind old threads coming back to life!

PS Welcome brickceo :)

[CG]

Why didn't God see that coming?
If one was to read the Bible as a novel instead of a Holy Book one could be forgiven in believing God was constantly taken by surprise!

[Delroy]

Why didn't God see that coming?

Because God gave man the power to change His vision for them. In the beginning God laid out His vision for man and the direction we should go. But man decided to go another way.

You see it's not like God is not all knowing because He is. But we were created with His power and Glory that we are able to have free will to choose right or wrong. We can decide not to follow God or His vision.

[Delroy]

If one was to read the Bible as a novel instead of a Holy Book one could be forgiven in believing God was constantly taken by surprise!

I guess you've been reading it like a novel all your life.

[CG]

I guess you've been reading it like a novel all your life.
Read it both ways actually.

God was surprised at what was going on in Sodom and Gomorrah. He said the following (Gen 18:21) “I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.” Sounds like he did not know and had to see for himself.

[Delroy]

Read it both ways actually.
God was surprised at what was going on in Sodom and Gomorrah. He said the following (Gen 18:21) “I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.” Sounds like he did not know and had to see for himself.

No man CG. Read that same line you posted carefully.

“I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me;" Is the same as saying "which I have knowledge of".

You see the wickedness that was taking place in Sodom was so foreign and extreme until God basically said,: "I hear it, I know of it, it's been reported to me but this can't be right. Let me go down there and take a closer look so I can confirm this for myself."

[CG]

No man CG. Read that same line you posted carefully.
“I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me;" Is the same as saying "which I have knowledge of".
You see the wickedness that was taking place in Sodom was so foreign and extreme until God basically said,: "I hear it, I know of it, it's been reported to me but this can't be right. Let me go down there and take a closer look so I can confirm this for myself."
Would a God that knows all, and knows all before it happens have to say something like "this cant be right, let me go and take a look see?" And how did the "cry" come to him? Prayers? If so prayers brought it to his attention. So he did not know until he heard the cry.

[Da Clique]

You see the wickedness that was taking place in Sodom was so foreign and extreme until God basically said,: "I hear it, I know of it, it's been reported to me but this can't be right. Let me go down there and take a closer look so I can confirm this for myself."

What does an all knowing god need to confirm..:confused: unless he is as blind to certain facts as the rest of us mortals.

What truly amaze me is that some actually profess to literally know the mind of god like the back of their hand and yet have no inkling into the mind of man.
Is it that they, by some unknown phanamina, possess an extraordinary insight into gods plans that he himself don’t possess; or is it that same old bullsh!t fed to us from the dawn of time??

Wouldn’t it be better if we simply start our godly conjectures with the phrase “I think”?

[Delroy]

Would a God that knows all, and knows all before it happens have to say something like "this cant be right, let me go and take a look see?" And how did the "cry" come to him? Prayers? If so prayers brought it to his attention. So he did not know until he heard the cry.

I like how you challenge the truth CG.
God has his way of doing things and if we seek deep within the Word and try to tap into the mind of God you will get the whole picture. Trust me!

God just has His way of doing things.

Why did God rest on the 7th day when He can't tire?
Why does He use Angels to carry messages when He's omnipresent?
And why did God have to go down to Sodom to confirm something that He already knew?

My only answer to that CG is that's just God's character. Yes! God has a character and He exercises it throughout the Bible. Imagine a God who had no character in His words or in His actions? A God who just did everything without our help.

How in the world would you even be able to relate to a Father that didn't include you in anything? A God who didn't show emotions that you can understand.

When God went down to visit Sodom the first place He stopped was by Abraham. God wanted to include man in His decision. He wanted to get the advice of someone who was much lower than Him. Can you even grasp the humility in God?

[CG]

I like how you challenge the truth CG.
God has his way of doing things and if we seek deep within the Word and try to tap into the mind of God you will get the whole picture. Trust me!
God just has His way of doing things.
Why did God rest on the 7th day when He can't tire?
Why does He use Angels to carry messages when He's omnipresent?
And why did God have to go down to Sodom to confirm something that He already knew?
My only answer to that CG is that's just God's character. Yes! God has a character and He exercises it throughout the Bible. Imagine a God who had no character in His words or in His actions? A God who just did everything without our help.
How in the world would you even be able to relate to a Father that didn't include you in anything? A God who didn't show emotions that you can understand.
When God went down to visit Sodom the first place He stopped was by Abraham. God wanted to include man in His decision. He wanted to get the advice of someone who was much lower than Him. Can you even grasp the humility in God?
One never knows what the truth is until it is challenged. Besides truth has nothing to fear from a challenge.

Humility and God? “I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. “

Humility cannot be the answer to the questions you mentioned. The God, as expressed in Christianity is anything but humble. Besides can we attribute human qualities, humbleness etc, to a Spirit being? We could to Jesus as he had a human side.