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GB-Bahamian-Boy
08-03-07, - 06:31 PM
:) I told ya Mr. Ingraham had a plan in place for this Program. Unlike all the propaganda that has beeen spread around by the PLP, as confirmed, Urban Renewal has not be 'shut down'. It's just the focus and managemment that has changed

Source: http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/305237592434456.php


Lewis to head 'new' Urban Renewal


By JASMIN BONIMY, Guardian Staff Reporter

jasmin@nasgaurd.com

A revamped version of the internationally acclaimed Urban Renewal Program will be re-launched over the next two weeks, the initiative's newly-appointed coordinator, Ella Lewis, told The Nassau Guardian yesterday.

Lewis, a Free National Movement candidate who lost to former Prime Minister Perry Christie in the May elections, will replace former chairman of the program, renowned psychiatrist Dr. David Allen. The new Urban Renewal coordinator for

New Providence is a trained teacher who has served with the Ministry of Education and as a member of the Board of Directors of the Bahamas Development Bank over the past decade.

Yesterday, while addressing the concerns of senior citizens at the Fox Hill Urban Renewal office (see story pg 4), Lewis outlined the Ingraham administration's plans for the community program that now falls under the Ministry of Housing.

"We are in the process of the reorganization of Urban Renewal as we speak," explained Lewis. "Over the last five years the centers were completely run by the police, and what is happening now is that the centers are going to be run by managers and assistant managers. But the centers will be running.

"So we are about reorganizing and putting everything back together," she said. "One of the things we want to do is take all of the politics out of Urban Renewal because Urban Renewal is for the Bahamian people, whether they are PLP or FNM." attempted to reach Farm Road MP Perry Christie and former Minister of Social Services Melanie Griffin for comments yesterday, however, our calls were not returned up to press time.

Still, according to Lewis the core of the program will be run by a managerial team that will partner with other stakeholders that include the police, the Department of Social Services, the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Education, the Department of Environmental Health, the church, local businesses and various civic groups.

"In each center we will have five persons who will be working for the Ministry of Housing in Urban Renewal," said Lewis. "They will have a manager, an assistant manager, two clerks and a janitress to keep the place clean.

"We are in the process of hiring people to work in our office [so] within the next week or two we will be opening these offices and keeping them opened dealing with whatever issues, problems or concerns that are in the community."

Under the Christie administration Urban Renewal offices were run by police officers that partnered with social services, environmental health and other government agencies. But Lewis insisted that the push behind the reorganization of Urban Renewal was to place police back on the streets, a position that was taken by Minister of National Security Tommy Turnquest at a press conference last month.

"Police will still be a part of the Urban Renewal Program, however, they will not be in charge of running the centers. But two officers will be attached to the centers to check and work the area."

Lewis added that currently, the nine Urban Renewal offices in New Providence are functioning with only enough employees to keep the Urban Renewal centers open.

"Three of the centers are now fully functional because they have their managers already and they are Bain and Grants Town, Farm Road, as well as Englerston," explained Lewis. "However, the other centers are partially functioning."

She added that once the program is fully reinstated at all the centers over the next two weeks, residents across New Providence can look forward to programs being brought back along with "more programs to come."

The brainchild of former Prime Minister Perry Christie, the Urban Renewal Community Policing Project has been hailed as one of the most ambitious crime reduction programs in the RBPF's recent history.

It was launched in June 2002 in Farm Road in response to the past and current problems facing a number of inner-city communities in The Bahamas, such as crime, poor housing conditions, joblessness, illiteracy, homelessness and other social ills that contribute to crime.

Over the past two months the government-backed program has been steeped in controversy after it was anounced that officers would be removed from Urban Renewal offices. Two weeks after their removal police were ordered back into Urban Renewal.

Christie has heavily criticized the Ingraham administration for dismantling the program; however, the government has insisted that it had not stopped the initiative.

In June, the government announced a neighborhood policing program which encompasses officers going into the community and collecting information to help fight crime, but the program, said officials, would not replace but would work alongside the Urban Renewal initiative.

RuthlessAvenger
08-03-07, - 07:00 PM
Lawd, now David Allen, me an Perry cousin ga say he get victimized. Shudda had a contrack.

Alien
08-03-07, - 07:10 PM
Dude...they had at least THREE MONTHS to hear the public outcry, in order to do something.

They have done NOTHING, yet. They have just changed the way it looks, but, what is the "plan", what is the "stratagy", and why we doin it "this way" and how long before we see the "results" what results are you looking for, why will this way bring you the results you want. Much more.....

I know what the PLP wanted to do...this time, I just don't see what these people are saying.

With this, we all should be concerned about Urban Renewal, not just PLPs.

GB-Bahamian-Boy
08-03-07, - 07:35 PM
Dude...they had at least THREE MONTHS to hear the public outcry, in order to do something.
They have done NOTHING, yet. They have just changed the way it looks, but, what is the "plan", what is the "stratagy", and why we doin it "this way" and how long before we see the "results" what results are you looking for, why will this way bring you the results you want. Much more.....
I know what the PLP wanted to do...this time, I just don't see what these people are saying.
With this, we all should be concerned about Urban Renewal, not just PLPs.



In order to fix something that has been political-isized it takes a while. For some it's three weeks, for some it's three years, for us it's 3 months. :)

We all are concerned about Urban Renewal that's why it took so many meetings and weeks to make sure the system accutally worked so it can do what it ment to do-serve the citizens on this country and not just as a nice car with air-condition for plp supporters!

Objective thought
08-03-07, - 09:00 PM
I still say without the police being the head and main part of the programme ,it will become another govt funded useless programme over the next 2-3 years!!!!

People will go to the centers seeking jobs and will have no interest in seeing the programme work..

The heads will always be out of office and no work will get done and every year it will cost more and more to keep the programme running which is the reason the PLP wanted persons to volunteer their service to the programme!!

All in all I hope it works though but I can't see it!!!

Exrated
08-04-07, - 12:06 AM
*sigh*

GBI
08-06-07, - 01:20 PM
What I don't understand, and perhaps someone here can explain it to me, is how do expect to remove the core aspects of a program and expect it to work better.

With urban renewal in its' original form, you had social services, police etc. to ensure that the department was able to respond to the needs of the people that came there for assistance.

Then you also say you're taking the politics out of it yet turnaround and appoint a former candidate from your party.

GET SERIOUS and stop talking SH** :taped2: :taped2: :taped2: :taped2:

runner6602
08-06-07, - 01:34 PM
What I don't understand, and perhaps someone here can explain it to me, is how do expect to remove the core aspects of a program and expect it to work better.
With urban renewal in its' original form, you had social services, police etc. to ensure that the department was able to respond to the needs of the people that came there for assistance.
Then you also say you're taking the politics out of it yet turnaround and appoint a former candidate from your party.
GET SERIOUS and stop talking SH** :taped2: :taped2: :taped2: :taped2:
now you now we did not expext you to agree!

Sunnyjohn
08-06-07, - 01:56 PM
LOCATION: Any Urban Renewal Office

DATE: July 13, 2013.

TIME: 10:15am, EST.


Bahamian Citizen needing assistance enters the office. After fighting pass the jonesers, stepping over the old stove parts and empty Kalik bottles in the parking lot, ignoring the irie nut vendors, jeering from boys hanging on the wall across the road and the snarling potcake dogs on the office steps.

(Ringing bell at desk)

Bahamian citizen: Miss, I could sign up ta see a couselor for some help?

(on phone)
Receptionist: In you see me on da phone! Take a number from da machine an take a seat! (to person on phone) Dat wasn't nobody Important jes now! Yeah chile I jes book four ticket on Spirit to Miami wit dat asue draw!

(Eyes rusty folding chair with spilled soda on them)
Bahamian citizen: Miss, 'ein no number left in da machine!


Receptionist: (to person on phone) Yeah girl, I ga see you soon terreckly! (Waves hand and cuts eye at Bahamian citizen)

(Comes out of office)
Urban Renewal Boss: Gal, you get my Tickets dem fa da trip to Miami? I ga put dat asue draw with da numbers we hit yesterday! Is a good ting we box that '5'! We ga have a good time at the Sawgrass Mall!

(to Bahamian citizen in fake Amerco-British Accent) May I helps you?

Bahamian citizen: Yes Ma'am I come to see 'bout getting some help for me and my boy.

Receptionist: I tell her to take a number, but she 'ein gat one.

UR Boss: Well Miss have a seat and we will see what we can do.
(to receptionist) Come in my office a second.

Receptionist: (walking with UR Boss to office)What you want chile?

UR Boss: We 'ein eat yet and da Red Cross ein bring da poor folks food yet. Less go get some 99 cents breakfast.

Receptionist: What 'bout da people in da lobby? And I only have dollar fa linch since I buy Johnny dem tennis last night.

UR Boss: Das alright, YA know me and Mr X (another person in office) does hook up. He ga pay fa we food. Less go out the side door so they don't see us.


(20 minutes latter...sitting on dirty chair in the lobby)
Bahamian citizen: Hello? Hello?

Meanwhile the office phone rings off the hook as answering machine can only pick up one line thanks to the brilliant cost saving idea of someone in government.....

:shhh:

Hobo
08-06-07, - 08:28 PM
LOCATION: Any Urban Renewal Office
DATE: July 13, 2013.
TIME: 10:15am, EST.
Bahamian Citizen needing assistance enters the office. After fighting pass the jonesers, stepping over the old stove parts and empty Kalik bottles in the parking lot, ignoring the irie nut vendors, jeering from boys hanging on the wall across the road and the snarling potcake dogs on the office steps.
(Ringing bell at desk)
Bahamian citizen: Miss, I could sign up ta see a couselor for some help?
(on phone)
Receptionist: In you see me on da phone! Take a number from da machine an take a seat! (to person on phone) Dat wasn't nobody Important jes now! Yeah chile I jes book four ticket on Spirit to Miami wit dat asue draw!
(Eyes rusty folding chair with spilled soda on them)
Bahamian citizen: Miss, 'ein no number left in da machine!
Receptionist: (to person on phone) Yeah girl, I ga see you soon terreckly! (Waves hand and cuts eye at Bahamian citizen)
(Comes out of office)
Urban Renewal Boss: Gal, you get my Tickets dem fa da trip to Miami? I ga put dat asue draw with da numbers we hit yesterday! Is a good ting we box that '5'! We ga have a good time at the Sawgrass Mall!
(to Bahamian citizen in fake Amerco-British Accent) May I helps you?
Bahamian citizen: Yes Ma'am I come to see 'bout getting some help for me and my boy.
Receptionist: I tell her to take a number, but she 'ein gat one.
UR Boss: Well Miss have a seat and we will see what we can do.
(to receptionist) Come in my office a second.
Receptionist: (walking with UR Boss to office)What you want chile?
UR Boss: We 'ein eat yet and da Red Cross ein bring da poor folks food yet. Less go get some 99 cents breakfast.
Receptionist: What 'bout da people in da lobby? And I only have dollar fa linch since I buy Johnny dem tennis last night.
UR Boss: Das alright, YA know me and Mr X (another person in office) does hook up. He ga pay fa we food. Less go out the side door so they don't see us.
(20 minutes latter...sitting on dirty chair in the lobby)
Bahamian citizen: Hello? Hello?
Meanwhile the office phone rings off the hook as answering machine can only pick up one line thanks to the brilliant cost saving idea of someone in government.....
:shhh:

Thats just cold. True....but cold!

Objective thought
08-06-07, - 11:02 PM
LOCATION: Any Urban Renewal Office

DATE: July 13, 2013.

TIME: 10:15am, EST.


Bahamian Citizen needing assistance enters the office. After fighting pass the jonesers, stepping over the old stove parts and empty Kalik bottles in the parking lot, ignoring the irie nut vendors, jeering from boys hanging on the wall across the road and the snarling potcake dogs on the office steps.

(Ringing bell at desk)

Bahamian citizen: Miss, I could sign up ta see a couselor for some help?

(on phone)
Receptionist: In you see me on da phone! Take a number from da machine an take a seat! (to person on phone) Dat wasn't nobody Important jes now! Yeah chile I jes book four ticket on Spirit to Miami wit dat asue draw!

(Eyes rusty folding chair with spilled soda on them)
Bahamian citizen: Miss, 'ein no number left in da machine!


Receptionist: (to person on phone) Yeah girl, I ga see you soon terreckly! (Waves hand and cuts eye at Bahamian citizen)

(Comes out of office)
Urban Renewal Boss: Gal, you get my Tickets dem fa da trip to Miami? I ga put dat asue draw with da numbers we hit yesterday! Is a good ting we box that '5'! We ga have a good time at the Sawgrass Mall!

(to Bahamian citizen in fake Amerco-British Accent) May I helps you?

Bahamian citizen: Yes Ma'am I come to see 'bout getting some help for me and my boy.

Receptionist: I tell her to take a number, but she 'ein gat one.

UR Boss: Well Miss have a seat and we will see what we can do.
(to receptionist) Come in my office a second.

Receptionist: (walking with UR Boss to office)What you want chile?

UR Boss: We 'ein eat yet and da Red Cross ein bring da poor folks food yet. Less go get some 99 cents breakfast.

Receptionist: What 'bout da people in da lobby? And I only have dollar fa linch since I buy Johnny dem tennis last night.

UR Boss: Das alright, YA know me and Mr X (another person in office) does hook up. He ga pay fa we food. Less go out the side door so they don't see us.


(20 minutes latter...sitting on dirty chair in the lobby)
Bahamian citizen: Hello? Hello?

Meanwhile the office phone rings off the hook as answering machine can only pick up one line thanks to the brilliant cost saving idea of someone in government.....

:shhh:

Sunny you need to write a play then talk to Pintard and have him produce it!!!

Look ya, you could win an grammy!!

Che Cheng!!! Sunny buys 10 acres on the beach, puts a big house, several pools, tennis courts, basket ball courts and............

Sunny then invites all of BI's members as her guests and we all live it up...

I could see us now!!

Objective thought
08-06-07, - 11:32 PM
What I don't understand, and perhaps someone here can explain it to me, is how do expect to remove the core aspects of a program and expect it to work better. I keep telling the folks here on BI that the police was the glue that held the whole URP together!!With urban renewal in its' original form, you had social services, police etc. to ensure that the department was able to respond to the needs of the people that came there for assistance.
Then you also say you're taking the politics out of it yet turnaround and appoint a former candidate from your party.GET SERIOUS and stop talking SH** :taped2: :taped2: :taped2: :taped2:Now, I still haven't figured out how they consider putting a former candidate as the head of the URP takes the politics out of the programme!!

Maybe they think that only PLPs can't help themselves from being political because they say that FNMs don't victimize anyone only PLPs do that!!! Strange but that's what they say!!!

The things that I have heard her say about PC sure does not make her none-partisan!!! So I am just as lost as you are on this topic...

Rory
08-06-07, - 11:41 PM
I keep telling the folks here on BI that the police was the glue that held the whole URP together!!Now, I still haven't figured out how they consider putting a former candidate as the head of the URP takes the politics out of the programme!!
Maybe they think that only PLPs can't help themselves from being political because they say that FNMs don't victimize anyone only PLPs do that!!! Strange but that's what they say!!!
The things that I have heard her say about PC sure does not make her none-partisan!!! So I am just as lost as you are on this topic...

from what Ive seen, cops are still around there. But there are now social workers heading it up, at least where I was. Also, I thought the main thing is to have something there to get the kids off the streets, and if so, they need some new PCs, so if you know anyone donating please do ... the 10 year old 500Mhz PCs are just so hard to work on :(

GBI
08-07-07, - 05:42 PM
now you now we did not expext you to agree!


This is not about me agreeing, this is about doing things that make sense can't you see beyond your politics for what is in the best interest of communities and the country.

How can people in this day and age continue to just go with whatever the Gov they support throw at them when they just know it aint right?????

People, please start thinking for yourselves, this is our country and we should not allow any politician, party or gov believe they have the right to simply strip down things that are working to make things better for others. Why are some so blinded????:dgi: :dgi: :dgi: :dgi:

LL Cool G
08-07-07, - 06:07 PM
i have a question: what warranted the former gov't winning an award for their URP?

i'm not sure if anyone has ever explained exactly what they won the award for....b/c it certainly wasn't for the results that they FOOLISHLY promised....(i.e., a lower crime rate).

so..........anyone?