Hello all,
I am of the opinion that when a government changes, ALL POLITICAL APPOINTEES should hand in their letters of resignation. If the new government wants them to remain on, then they are acting within their rights.
I am also of the view that all Permanent Secretaries should do the same and that there should be term limits on how long one can be a PS in one ministry.
A new government, whether FNM or PLP, needs to be able to carry out its agenda, period.
Whether i like it or not, when a new government comes to power, it has been given the approval of the majority of the people to carry out its plans and ideas espoused during the campaign. Any new government show have the right, upon assuming office, to remove, appoint or reappoint any high ranking government official or employee.
I know this is a slippery slope, but a new government has to be able to implement its agenda. I agree in principle with the firings of the PM, my disagreement however, is in the way in which it is being done. A little tact never hurts anyone.
Whats your opinion!!

Hello all,
I am of the opinion that when a government changes, ALL POLITICAL APPOINTEES should hand in their letters of resignation. If the new government wants them to remain on, then they are acting within their rights.
I am also of the view that all Permanent Secretaries should do the same and that there should be term limits on how long one can be a PS in one ministry.
A new government, whether FNM or PLP, needs to be able to carry out its agenda, period.
Whether i like it or not, when a new government comes to power, it has been given the approval of the majority of the people to carry out its plans and ideas espoused during the campaign. Any new government show have the right, upon assuming office, to remove, appoint or reappoint any high ranking government official or employee.
I know this is a slippery slope, but a new government has to be able to implement its agenda. I agree in principle with the firings of the PM, my disagreement however, is in the way in which it is being done. A little tact never hurts anyone.
Whats your opinion!!
This is an enlighten thought, even coming from you... I am however of the view that the government continues, regardless of the change.. so for example I would have a serious problem with Permanent Secretaries resigning. There are the ones who has to in my view carry on the business of government even in the wake of a new government...

Yet for persons like Chairman's and all of those at levels above who were appointment are for stated public policies of the outgoing government they should willing hand in letter of resignations and leave it to the new administration to reject or accept their letter of resignation.

There are however, persons who may have been appointment to positions that are not political and have a permanenant post, these persons providing they are performing should not be forced out of government because of the change.

I am of the firm view that what is happening now is a case of an over crowding of the system by a previous government who sought to buy votes by issueing jobs and made no previsions for such hirings...up to the tune of almost 3,000 persons most of then janitors.... this was not right and a strong and good government had to correct it.

I would like to vote yess, but maybe an option best suited for me would have been yes, but a certain level.

If they are not doing their job, or wont work along with them, and they are their boss, then sure, fire them. Me, if I was to come in I would get rid of most of the high rankers and replace them with younger more talented and smart people that can sit down and actually think .. how will we fix this problem, and come up with a solution. Not saying they dont do that now .. just saying. There is alot that can be and should be being done though, and what they get paid, it should be a 22/7 thinktank going on there.

Lets see, basically if one doesnt check their email at least once a day then they are outta there!!! :D

Hello all,
I am of the opinion that when a government changes, ALL POLITICAL APPOINTEES should hand in their letters of resignation. If the new government wants them to remain on, then they are acting within their rights.
I am also of the view that all Permanent Secretaries should do the same and that there should be term limits on how long one can be a PS in one ministry.
A new government, whether FNM or PLP, needs to be able to carry out its agenda, period.
Whether i like it or not, when a new government comes to power, it has been given the approval of the majority of the people to carry out its plans and ideas espoused during the campaign. Any new government show have the right, upon assuming office, to remove, appoint or reappoint any high ranking government official or employee.
I know this is a slippery slope, but a new government has to be able to implement its agenda. I agree in principle with the firings of the PM, my disagreement however, is in the way in which it is being done. A little tact never hurts anyone.
Whats your opinion!!

I agree with you relative to political appointees like Ambassadors and board members; i disagree with you relative to Permanent secretaries. They allow for consistency and smooth functions of government. In Permanent secretaries you have a person who is well versed in the running of government and will be of immense help to new Ministers and Prime Ministers. However, i do believe that Permanent secretaries should be move around from time to time to keep the system balance.

Now you would be aware that in a polarize election like the one we just had no matter what the present Prime Minister does will be term victimization and uncaring. ''Tact'' is a fancy word for trying to please everyone. At the end of the day a government works in the best interest of its citizens and not in the best interest of A particular person or party.

It depends.

There are certain positions that are independent. But in the Bahamas, I doubt that these people or positions exist - even though they are supposed to. So, I'm of the opinion that when government changes - everyone goes unless the new government decides to keep them on. That should give these persons an incentive to perform optimally and independently.

This is an enlighten thought, even coming from you...



i guess only you have sense!!!!

i guess only you have sense!!!!
Naw that is not it.. but for almost every post that you make is is always a swipe at Ingraham... but I commend you for that most enlighten position.. I disagree with you however with respect to the PS...

If a civil servant is going to let personal and political conflicts get in the way, they should not be there in the first place. But things, being as it is, I think it is only appropriate that those who refuse to work for the people because they simply cannot take part in any governments agenda or vision to leave with dignity and respect. Civil service after all is literall enforcement of all the policies of the state....which in any case also includes the agenda of any current government. When civil service and its vacancies are used in the played out political way that it is often used, like giving out jobs for votes, you will no doubt get a heavily polarized civil service, which won't get anything done, at least properly.

I agree with you except the part about the Permanent Secretary. These are people who have worked their way in the civil service up to these Positions. Most of them are very experienced with the majority having more than 20 years under their belt. I believe that the only reason they may appear questionable is because they work closely with the Minister in charge of their Ministry.

Well, if they received evaluations whenever government changed hands then they wouldn't be at those same positions for 20 years. I personally don't care how long someone's been in a position. If they aren't cutting it they need to go. To many people take government jobs for this very reason. They see security, knowing that the government has no standards so they can BS their way for 20 years and then claim to have experience. Experience only counts if you did something. Too many people do nothing for years and expect to be rewarded for simply occupying a position. That's retarded. No standards or accountability. And you wonder why things are so bad.

Hello all,
I am of the opinion that when a government changes, ALL POLITICAL APPOINTEES should hand in their letters of resignation. If the new government wants them to remain on, then they are acting within their rights.
I am also of the view that all Permanent Secretaries should do the same and that there should be term limits on how long one can be a PS in one ministry.
A new government, whether FNM or PLP, needs to be able to carry out its agenda, period.
Whether i like it or not, when a new government comes to power, it has been given the approval of the majority of the people to carry out its plans and ideas espoused during the campaign. Any new government show have the right, upon assuming office, to remove, appoint or reappoint any high ranking government official or employee.
I know this is a slippery slope, but a new government has to be able to implement its agenda. I agree in principle with the firings of the PM, my disagreement however, is in the way in which it is being done. A little tact never hurts anyone.
Whats your opinion!!

I like the idea about the PSs. I never thought about dealing with them in such a away...

I also believe that all appointees should turn in their resignation papers..I think that is what hurt the PLP the most with getting their information out..PC did not want to force anyone out and he tried to work with them and they inturn cut his throat!!

I also agreed with most of the firings but disagree with the way they were done especially Steve and Russell!!

Because of this things are now out of control.. People see that the leader does not care so why should they...

Because of this things are now out of control.. People see that the leader does not care so why should they...

Thats the thing though, aint noone checking but them and the diehards, we gats our own lifes to live ;)

[FONT="Trebuchet MS"]This is an enlighten thought, even coming from you... I am however of the view that the government continues, regardless of the change.. so for example I would have a serious problem with Permanent Secretaries resigning. There are the ones who has to in my view carry on the business of government even in the wake of a new government...
So what's the difference between moving a PS to head a department that they know nothing about or they having worked in that are for so long that they have to learn the workings of that area all over again and simply firing them or asking them to turn in their resignation???

My point is whoever takes over the department after the change of govt will have to learn the system....

The FNM switched around alot of people when they took over and that actually stalled the governance process which is why they had a lot of press comferences to make it appear as though the governance was still continuing!!!!:footmouth

You need to talk to HI about this!!

I could understand the PS's assistant taking over as PS, then that will be a continuance of government..

If they are not doing their job, or wont work along with them, and they are their boss, then sure, fire them. Me, if I was to come in I would get rid of most of the high rankers and replace them with younger more talented and smart people that can sit down and actually think .. how will we fix this problem, and come up with a solution. Not saying they dont do that now .. just saying. There is alot that can be and should be being done though, and what they get paid, it should be a 22/7 thinktank going on there.

Lets see, basically if one doesnt check their email at least once a day then they are outta there!!! :D

People work all of their life in order to get to that point where they could sit in an office with their foot on the desk and do not have to think!!!

So what you talking bout man???

I agree with you relative to political appointees like Ambassadors and board members; i disagree with you relative to Permanent secretaries. They allow for consistency and smooth functions of government. In Permanent secretaries you have a person who is well versed in the running of government and will be of immense help to new Ministers and Prime Ministers. However, i do believe that Permanent secretaries should be move around from time to time to keep the system balance.
So does it make sense to switch them(PS) around right after winning an election????

That's how we create confusion!!!

No wonder all we hear these days is victimization!!!!! Too much confusion, people just don't understand what is going on with all these transfers....