LOL...

I was talking to my Indo-French buddy, who happens to be a muslim. We were in the gym getting our sh1t together, when we started talking about diet and how he need to gain more weight.

I said, listen, just eat more meat. He said, he can't eat meat that is NOT Halal; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
It is because of his religion, he can not eat meat that has not been slaughtered a certain way, so, he just eats fish or breads and rice.

So I said, how do you know it's Halal or not. He said, the people who prepare the food, would tell you if it is Halal or not. "It is a matter of trust"
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I know for a fact (as I told him) that in the UK, they have to import Halal as it is illegal to slaughter animals in that way; it's the rules. He said, he knows...but, in Paris, where he is from, he and his parents would have to leave Paris in order to get their meat, because, the only persons liscenced in Paris to sell and procure animals for Halal is.....get this.....A JEW!

HAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....I laughed, but, as soon as I noticed how pissed he was, I soon asked some serious questions about his dilema.

Talk about "a matter of trust".....

What do you think?
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LOL...
I was talking to my Indo-French buddy, who happens to be a muslim. We were in the gym getting our sh1t together, when we started talking about diet and how he need to gain more weight.
I said, listen, just eat more meat. He said, he can't eat meat that is NOT Halal; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
It is because of his religion, he can not eat meat that has not been slaughtered a certain way, so, he just eats fish or breads and rice.
So I said, how do you know it's Halal or not. He said, the people who prepare the food, would tell you if it is Halal or not. "It is a matter of trust"
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I know for a fact (as I told him) that in the UK, they have to import Halal as it is illegal to slaughter animals in that way; it's the rules. He said, he knows...but, in Paris, where he is from, he and his parents would have to leave Paris in order to get their meat, because, the only persons liscenced in Paris to sell and procure animals for Halal is.....get this.....A JEW!
HAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....I laughed, but, as soon as I noticed how pissed he was, I soon asked some serious questions about his dilema.
Talk about "a matter of trust".....
What do you think?
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Religion over food or health is foolish in my opinion but I can respect it. But as far as I understand he can eat that which is not Halal when there is no other to be found. I have Muslim firends to.

Religion over food ... is foolish in my opinion but I can respect it.


I agree!

Religion over food or health is foolish in my opinion but I can respect it.
If you can respect it, it is not foolish. It is worthy to the people, who uphold that standard oh liberal one.

So, saying you "respect it" and in the same breath "it is foolish" is oxymoronic....don't you agree?

In any case, what about those vegans and vegetarians, who eat no meat because of their beliefs? They obviously are not eating "full healthy", but they have no religion attached to it. So, what are you trying to say?

Maybe he, my friend, like most of us do, take suplements to put the nutrition back into his body.....?? You ever thought about that? In any event, he wants to gain weight, but, I never said it was unhealthy for him to do so because, he is in fantastic shape as it is. In fact, I saw his body fat count and it is astounding to see him have close to no fat on his body. Amazing!
And, he is buff to say the very least. I am jealous of his gym work ethic and his physique.


But as far as I understand he can eat that which is not Halal when there is no other to be found. I have Muslim firends to.

Well he, like some people you would find in any religion, just don't take their religion seriously as most others do. To some people, Vicky, it is a matter of principle. Just as much as the sissy issues are one to you. Regardless of the colon blow in your cereal.
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He doesn't have to eat meat to gain weight. He has to change his workout. I had a friend from Jordan who was the same way. An ex-soccer player who came into the gym and treated it like an endurance workout.

He doesn't have to eat meat to gain weight. He has to change his workout. I had a friend from Jordan who was the same way. An ex-soccer player who came into the gym and treated it like an endurance workout.


I told him to take weight gainer. In fact, I don't know what his trouble is as he looks fine. He wants to get bigger for some reason; have no clue why, because, it is obvious that he works out.
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You don't have to take weight gainer either. I'm certain when he says he wants to gain weight he probably means muscle. Taking weight gainer increases the calories you consume, it doesn't improve the proportion of fat to muscle. Increasing calories without improving the way that those calories are utilized will only lead to becoming fat.

You don't have to take weight gainer either. I'm certain when he says he wants to gain weight he probably means muscle. Taking weight gainer increases the calories you consume, it doesn't improve the proportion of fat to muscle. Increasing calories without improving the way that those calories are utilized will only lead to becoming fat.


No. He wants to gain weight. He wants it the fastest way possible, and with him, it does not take him long to get the tone he likes.

So Ting-um, you have a doctorate in health and nutrition as well?
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Sounds like you have a doctorate in "everyfalkinthing". hehehehheehee...
I met a guy from Harvard with that same degree; in fact, they put in in their curriculum two years ago.
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No. I played football and ran track since I was 12 years old. So I've been in the gym for about 20 years. When I was in university I trained other students, professors and whomever paid. I suppose after 20 years of doing it I should have a doctorate, but I don't.

No. I played football and ran track since I was 12 years old. So I've been in the gym for about 20 years. When I was in university I trained other students, professors and whomever paid. I suppose after 20 years of doing it I should have a doctorate, but I don't.


Well, he simply wants to get bigger. Regardless of how it is. Now, I am no nutritionist, but, if he wants to gain weight, weight gainers sounded like the logical thing to me.

Then again, as you said, it may not be the best thing. He should look into it himself and I think he probably would.

In any event, the story that missed the heads of all and sundry, is the fact that they have Jews, running the slaughter house which is supposed to sell Halal meat.

Talk about a matter of trust.
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If you can respect it, it is not foolish. It is worthy to the people, who uphold that standard oh liberal one.
So, saying you "respect it" and in the same breath "it is foolish" is oxymoronic....don't you agree? No its is foolish to me but not to them and thats ok.
In any case, what about those vegans and vegetarians, who eat no meat because of their beliefs? They obviously are not eating "full healthy", but they have no religion attached to it. So, what are you trying to say? Religion is a belief
Maybe he, my friend, like most of us do, take suplements to put the nutrition back into his body.....?? You ever thought about that? In any event, he wants to gain weight, but, I never said it was unhealthy for him to do so because, he is in fantastic shape as it is. In fact, I saw his body fat count and it is astounding to see him have close to no fat on his body. Amazing!
And, he is buff to say the very least. I am jealous of his gym work ethic and his physique.
Well he, like some people you would find in any religion, just don't take their religion seriously as most others do. To some people, Vicky, it is a matter of principle. And thats cool they are adults. But for me its foolish to choose religion over health and life. If he is healthy why does he want to change?? Its kind of like the orthodox Jewish guy who lived on the 2nd floor like my Mom. On the Sabbath they do not operate machinery of any kind they even leave their lights on all night so as to not flip the switch. Well some time ago my mom fell out side the front door of the building and she could not get up. It was Sabbath he and his son walked around my mom leaving her in the snow and ice (I was not in Montreal at the time). Well one day he arrived the same time I did and we walked to the elevator, he stood there waiting for me to push the button. I looked at him and said I will not sin for you and walked up the stairs. I heard the elevator doors open. So I waited on the next floor and when the doors opened I said to him not only do I know but God knows. You could push a button but could not help my mother. Just as much as the sissy issues are one to you. Regardless of the colon blow in your cereal.
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I do not understand this "Regardless of the colon blow in your cereal." please explain.

Well, he simply wants to get bigger. Regardless of how it is. Now, I am no nutritionist, but, if he wants to gain weight, weight gainers sounded like the logical thing to me.
Then again, as you said, it may not be the best thing. He should look into it himself and I think he probably would.
In any event, the story that missed the heads of all and sundry, is the fact that they have Jews, running the slaughter house which is supposed to sell Halal meat.
Talk about a matter of trust.
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Halal is kosher I did not miss it. That is why my responce was about religion.

Halal is kosher I did not miss it. That is why my responce was about religion.


No it is not. Kosher can be cut in any way. Halal, has to be cut in the direction of Mecca. Kosher, for obvious reasons, does not give a heck which direction it is cut in; and certainly not towards Mecca.
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This is my point.

No its is foolish to me but not to them and thats ok.
Well if you call them foolish, you can not respect them, because, you do not understand why they do it and why it is important.
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Religion is a belief And thats cool they are adults. But for me its foolish to choose religion over health and life.
To you, but, their beliefs mean allot more to them. You cannot respect them, if you call them foolish. It is like saying I respect you for being involved with the sissy issues, when I simply do not. Would not even lie to you and say that I do. In fact, would not even go as far as to say that it is foolish.
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Unwrap that one.
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If he is healthy why does he want to change??
Some of these people are so self-conscious. I don't get it.
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Its kind of like the orthodox Jewish guy who lived on the 2nd floor like my Mom. On the Sabbath they do not operate machinery of any kind they even leave their lights on all night so as to not flip the switch. Well some time ago my mom fell out side the front door of the building and she could not get up. It was Sabbath he and his son walked around my mom leaving her in the snow and ice (I was not in Montreal at the time). Well one day he arrived the same time I did and we walked to the elevator, he stood there waiting for me to push the button. I looked at him and said I will not sin for you and walked up the stairs. I heard the elevator doors open. So I waited on the next floor and when the doors opened I said to him not only do I know but God knows. You could push a button but could not help my mother.
Well, I am sure some religions have their nutters; just as the vegetarians, who go and burn down slaughter houses, are certainly nutters. Now, if there is general assistance, or, a case of an emergency where you can not help it, or, help is needed of you; I am certain their is a clause in any religious doctrine of the Abrahamic lineage, that says that help your brothers and sisters at all cost.

I know of another friend of mine, who is a devout Muslim, who is probably the most religious man I know, say the same thing.

I think the personalities, especially of some people, you need to be careful of and not cast aspersions on the entire religion, because one person did not help your mommy.
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I do not understand this "Regardless of the colon blow in your cereal." please explain.

ehehehhehehhee......go think about it.
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President Bush had surgery on his colon not too long ago. Some say he was simply full of sh1t. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.....

No it is not. Kosher can be cut in any way. Halal, has to be cut in the direction of Mecca. Kosher, for obvious reasons, does not give a heck which direction it is cut in; and certainly not towards Mecca.
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This is my point.

As far as the animal is conserned cause of death is the same they bleed to death. Thus 2 and on the same, the ritual may be a bit different Bless all the animal one time bless each on at a time still blessed. IMHO it is very cruel way to slaughter.

In Kosher slaughtering, the Sochet must perform the slaughter in a single, swift, uninterrupted sweep. In Islamic slaughter, the process must be carried in a single swift sweep by a sane Muslim. However, if he/she were to raise his/her hand before the Dhabh is completed and immediately returns to the process, it would still render the meat Halal.

The animal still bleeds to death.