Gambling- "A Poor Man's Game". That statement is certainly true. Isn't it amazing that the persons buying numbers, playing lotto and jackpots, most of the times are the poor barely making minimum wage workers in this country. I think it is more important to instill in individuals a mindset of saving and investing for the future of themselves and their kids, rather than blowing it all on a number. I mean gambling is a game of chance, not certainty, but if you put your money in the bank on fixed and save for a rainy day or whatever, you can be pretty sure that it will be there. Bahamians or most I should say do not plan and save, rather they buy and spend money they dont have, and may not earn.

Please say it again. I believe you are the smartest one on this thread. Teach people to save, but don't take away their freedom of choice.
All these others here think Bahamians are dumb mindless people that need to be controled with out choice. That is how they like so they control Bahamains minds and their money. Bring you money to church and the preachers live in million $ home and the poor stay poor.

Gambling- "A Poor Man's Game". That statement is certainly true. Isn't it amazing that the persons buying numbers, playing lotto and jackpots, most of the times are the poor barely making minimum wage workers in this country. I think it is more important to instill in individuals a mindset of saving and investing for the future of themselves and their kids, rather than blowing it all on a number. I mean gambling is a game of chance, not certainty, but if you put your money in the bank on fixed and save for a rainy day or whatever, you can be pretty sure that it will be there. Bahamians or most I should say do not plan and save, rather they buy and spend money they dont have, and may not earn.


So Teniel, just for clarification, do you think that people should be allowed to gamble, or should it remain illegal? knowing that as you stated, Bahamian people in general have poor moey management skills? Should they be given the choice to gamble or not gamble? or should we disable everyone from gambling in the Bahamas?

saving money won't make this country rich,
investing money in business that will bring more money will.


Good points bsm but I believe that money in no makes a country rich. I believe that the true wealth of a nation is found within the strength of its morality, the makeup of our laws, how we abide by them as a people and the execution of judgement. All poverty that the world faces today is due to a lack of those three things.

The Drug Trade can improve the economy much faster than a lottery. We should look more into that avenue?

And this'd be one of the better qualities of time. You're only 24, you've missed a WHOLE lot when it came to the development of this country.
Furthermore, from gray beard to bottle-height alike have been robbed of the tools necessary to see our past, present and future clearly for what it is. And I don't believe it's because of porn, digits, dreambooks or distractions- but rather too many people are being pointed in a given direction and following without thinking for themselves.

What is the Bahamas's second largest "breadwinning industry"? And can anyone here give me the main moral polemic in conjunction with Offshore Banking please?

What is Wrecking? Why were there pirates? And eventually didn't the Crown hire Woodes Rodgers to put an end to piracy? Pray tell, what was his former occupation?

Do you remember that big pink and white building you and I use to attend every summer for the artwork shop, Delroy? Can you tell me EXACTLY where the Bahamian Government got the funds to build that establishment?

Reconsider posts numbers 5, 9 and ESPECIALLY 10 on this page please. You know something? My bad, please review the entire thread.

http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=438

Good points bsm but I believe that money in no makes a country rich. I believe that the true wealth of a nation is found within the strength of its morality, the makeup of our laws, how we abide by them as a people and the execution of judgement. All poverty that the world faces today is due to a lack of those three things.


without money, there is no life.

without money, there is no life.


Wow!

Do you remember that big pink and white building you and I use to attend every summer for the artwork shop, Delroy? Can you tell me EXACTLY where the Bahamian Government got the funds to build that establishment?

Reconsider posts numbers 5, 9 and ESPECIALLY 10 on this page please.

http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=438


Yes I remember those good old days. :)
The roads here also could have been sponsored by the very same thing (that would explain the decay). :sarcastic
But does that make it right? Have we suffered and continue to suffer for it? Every decision that we make will effect someone somewhere. What legacy will we leave for our children to carry on? A heavy or a light one?

without money, there is no life.
Wow!

Yes, Delroy, believe it or not some people have an alternate perception as to what constitutes as "life" for them. YAHWEH gives free will, so that individuals can be held individually accountable. Who's subscription is on Bahamian Legal Tender and coin alike? Yet, we're supposed to be an Independant, moreover Christian nation. And by the way, what happens if you don't give them what you gat for them?

Matt 22: 15-22

And before anyone start, yes, I am aware of what was said about 'losing one's life by way of trying to save one's life', however, it's YAHWEH's will for mankind to have free will and to THAT I kneel.

Yes, Delroy, believe it or not some people have an alternate perception as to what constitutes as "life" for them. YAHWEH gives free will, so that individuals can be held individually accountable. Who's subscription is on Bahamian Legal Tender and coin alike? Yet, we're supposed to be an Independant, moreover Christian nation. And by the way, what happens if you don't give them what you gat for them?

Matt 22: 15-22

And before anyone start, yes, I am aware of what was said about 'losing one's life by way of trying to save one's life', however, it's YAHWEH's will for mankind to have free will and to THAT I kneel.


How do you get food & water ..? Do people just give it to you, do you pray and god gives you it, cause Id like to know ... do you live in someone elses dwelling without them asking for payment?? Please enlighten us as most of us have to pay for all of that.

without money, there is no life.


If this is true then I will give you $1000 dollars to raise a few people from the dead. I am asking you because I don't know how to do this.

If this is true then I will give you $1000 dollars to raise a few people from the dead. I am asking you because I don't know how to do this.



How do you get food & water ..? Do people just give it to you, do you pray and god gives you it, cause Id like to know ... do you live in someone elses dwelling without them asking for payment?? Please enlighten us as most of us have to pay for all of that.

How do you get food & water ..? Do people just give it to you, do you pray and god gives you it, cause Id like to know ... do you live in someone elses dwelling without them asking for payment?? Please enlighten us as most of us have to pay for all of that.


What you really should have said Rory is that without money it is difficult to live in "this" society.

So Teniel, just for clarification, do you think that people should be allowed to gamble, or should it remain illegal? knowing that as you stated, Bahamian people in general have poor moey management skills? Should they be given the choice to gamble or not gamble? or should we disable everyone from gambling in the Bahamas?



Well people already gamble here in the Bahamas, in Florida, and elsewhere. So whether you make it legal or not that wont stop people from doing it. Think back to the days of Prohibition in the US, that did not stop people from drinking and merriment. With that said, and with the risk of contradiction for legality sake, I would have to say no, I dont think it should be made legal here in the Bahamas. My reason is that I strongly believe that we should nurture a society in the Bahamas where people plan and save for future wealth. When you sincerely work hard, and save for something, thats an accomplishment that you more than likely wont squander and blow off on superficial things. Ever read those stories from past lotto winners. Alot of them went from instant overnight millionaires to the welfare line, and this is after winning millions of dollars, most of the times asisde from bad investments, greedy family members, and overzealous taste, it was a lack of planning, and sound judgement, which alot of persons are faced with when they are all of a sudden very wealthy.


I dont believe in taking away people's personal choices, but the issue of legalizing gambling in this country is not a personal issue, but rather a national and societal issue, that has to be analyzed for the greater good, in my opinion at least. I mean if you really want to gamble, no one under normal circumstances is barred from hopping on a plane and going to Florida or Las Vegas or anywhere else to do so. I mean that really boils down to a matter of convenience, and it doesn't seem to inconvenience alot of Bahamians, since most of us are down there shopping anyway ;) .

But I feel that legalizing gambling would be opening a can of worms this country may not be ready to digest yet (yuck!!! :D ). Our mindset about money and spending, and investing hasn't evolved to the level in my opinion that we wouldn't allow the 'high' and chance wealth of gambling to 'broke' many of us, and have us owing every bank on Bay street.


And (I just add a thought so I will add this in on the spur of the moment), ever think how legalizing gambling would impact on crime here in the Bahamas. I mean think about it, persons owing large sums of money to bookies, cant repay it, that leads to homicide, kidnappings, innocent family members being caught in the fray. But it was just a thought.

So I would have to say no to legalizing gambling, its already a sleeping giant here, lets not wake the giant.

P.S. I do believe that there are many Bahamians that can intelligently handle their wealth, but from my observations that is a minority, compared to a majority that spend overzealously without saving for a rainy day or regarding the future, like for instance their kids college education, or owning their own home, or even owning their own business.

How do you get food & water ..? Do people just give it to you, do you pray and god gives you it, cause Id like to know ... do you live in someone elses dwelling without them asking for payment?? Please enlighten us as most of us have to pay for all of that.


That's why I asked, "And by the way, what happens if you don't give them what you gat for them?"

What you really should have said Rory is that without money it is difficult to live in "this" society.
And aint that the truth? In a money based society, it is difficult to live without money. Rory again I must stress, just as there are alternative perceptions as to what "life" is, there are alternatives to "society."


And Delroy, I want my money via Paypal. The answer is: Ask Yeshua Bar Yoseph, sooner or later He'll get around to it.

Anywise, my opinion.
There are alot of things Israel did that weren't meant for us GENTILES to follow. One of them was getting a King. Turn on ya TV and see that the entire region feeling the lick (directly or indirectly) as a result of this. The second: the 'drawing of lots' or as we know it today "lottery." It is not meant to be for us, but you know how things go...free will. And as much as I despise the misappropriation of funds and the sequences and consequences thereof...I despise the disrespect of free will more.

Well people already gamble here in the Bahamas, in Florida, and elsewhere. So whether you make it legal or not that wont stop people from doing it. Think back to the days of Prohibition in the US, that did not stop people from drinking and merriment. With that said, and with the risk of contradiction for legality sake, I would have to say no, I dont think it should be made legal here in the Bahamas. My reason is that I strongly believe that we should nurture a society in the Bahamas where people plan and save for future wealth. When you sincerely work hard, and save for something, thats an accomplishment that you more than likely wont squander and blow off on superficial things. Ever read those stories from past lotto winners. Alot of them went from instant overnight millionaires to the welfare line, and this is after winning millions of dollars, most of the times asisde from bad investments, greedy family members, and overzealous taste, it was a lack of planning, and sound judgement, which alot of persons are faced with when they are all of a sudden very wealthy.


I dont believe in taking away people's personal choices, but the issue of legalizing gambling in this country is not a personal issue, but rather a national and societal issue, that has to be analyzed for the greater good, in my opinion at least. I mean if you really want to gamble, no one under normal circumstances is barred from hopping on a plane and going to Florida or Las Vegas or anywhere else to do so. I mean that really boils down to a matter of convenience, and it doesn't seem to inconvenience alot of Bahamians, since most of us are down there shopping anyway ;) .

But I feel that legalizing gambling would be opening a can of worms this country may not be ready to digest yet (yuck!!! :D ). Our mindset about money and spending, and investing hasn't evolved to the level in my opinion that we wouldn't allow the 'high' and chance wealth of gambling to 'broke' many of us, and have us owing every bank on Bay street.


And (I just add a thought so I will add this in on the spur of the moment), ever think how legalizing gambling would impact on crime here in the Bahamas. I mean think about it, persons owing large sums of money to bookies, cant repay it, that leads to homicide, kidnappings, innocent family members being caught in the fray. But it was just a thought.

So I would have to say no to legalizing gambling, its already a sleeping giant here, lets not wake the giant.

P.S. I do believe that there are many Bahamians that can intelligently handle their wealth, but from my observations that is a minority, compared to a majority that spend overzealously without saving for a rainy day or regarding the future, like for instance their kids college education, or owning their own home, or even owning their own business.


Ok, I agree with your rationale, but I just wanted you to say exactly what you thought should happen, so you chose, not to legalize gambling. Hmm, I wonder what a certain someone would think of you now that you said that. :shhh:
ANyway, I'm with you on that too Teniel