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Don't hurt your head, it's just that some members had the idea that you were for legalizing gambling that's all....though they didn't say it in those words...now i want to see what they have to say to your response you see...:)

Yes I remember those good old days. :)
The roads here also could have been sponsored by the very same thing (that would explain the decay). :sarcastic
But does that make it right? Have we suffered and continue to suffer for it? Every decision that we make will effect someone somewhere. What legacy will we leave for our children to carry on? A heavy or a light one?


Ah, see that is the beauty, the VERY glory of YAHWEH. Give ONE, only ONE instance where YAHWEH has not taken something simple, plain or Evil and turned it into something of righteousness (or at the very least something of goodness)? The legacy here don't mean anything- did He not say to store up your treasures in a specific place? And what about our burdens, what did He say to do with them? Our cares and concerns are to be casted on whom?

Evil, deviancy and delinquency exists for reasons few can grasp - they exist to show the contrast between the ways of the world and the ways of YAHWEH. Check out Teniel's signature...Rest assured no matter how bad things get messed up here, YAHWEH gat ya back. Ain't He promised that?
That said, let them have their way with their free will (for some, sadly, that's the only real talent they gat) give it to them and watch glory happen.

how can anyone say in one breath that are all for free will, 'as long as it does not hurt anyone'?

if I truly had freewill, then I would be able to kill a human just like I can kill an animal and suffer no consequence.

man ain't perfect, and neither is the law of the state.

freewill is something we are born with, that does not mean we are allowed to do as we please *without consequences*.

the whole purpose of biblical laws and state laws is to protect man's freewill from causing chaos.

let's legalize drugs - as long as no one gets hurt ...
let's legalize prostitution - as long as no one gets hurt ...
let's legalize gambling - as long as no one gets hurt ...
let's legalize 'same sex marriages' - as long as no one gets hurt ...

and when people start getting hurt, then what?

Government does not control your freewill, it just punishes you for exercising it. Otherwise we would all be dead. Imagine all those gangs running around killing everybody - exercising there freewill.

just because freewill does not cause physical harm, or immediate harm, then it should be legal right?

if freewill was 'all good' then God won't be coming back to judge us and punish us for exercising it.

adam and eve exercised their freewill, they didn't harm anyone, neither did satan when he lied to them and told them to eat from the 'forbidden' tree.

they DID break the law though, and look at what happened to us.

better yet let's just get rid of the law, and everyone just exercise their freewill. and don't tell me 'as long as I don't hurt nobody' BECAUSE then you are controlling my freewill.

freewill was given to allow you to use it sensibly - proactively, not reactively.

you do have freewill - break the law all you want - but everyone else has freewill and can break the law too - yes, even God's law - and when you get 'done in' by others exercising their freewill, then what?


:eek:

how can anyone say in one breath that are all for free will, 'as long as it does not hurt anyone'?

if I truly had freewill, then I would be able to kill a human just like I can kill an animal and suffer no consequence.
Duh :dunce: re read the first sentence you typed killing someone hurts them. :dunce:
man ain't perfect, and neither is the law of the state.

freewill is something we are born with, that does not mean we are allowed to do as we please *without consequences*.

the whole purpose of biblical laws and state laws is to protect man's freewill from causing chaos.

let's legalize drugs - as long as no one gets hurt ...
let's legalize prostitution - as long as no one gets hurt ...
let's legalize gambling - as long as no one gets hurt ...
let's legalize 'same sex marriages' - as long as no one gets hurt ...

and when people start getting hurt, then what?

Government does not control your freewill, it just punishes you for exercising it. Otherwise we would all be dead. Imagine all those gangs running around killing everybody - exercising there freewill.

just because freewill does not cause physical harm, or immediate harm, then it should be legal right?

if freewill was 'all good' then God won't be coming back to judge us and punish us for exercising it.

adam and eve exercised their freewill, they didn't harm anyone, neither did satan when he lied to them and told them to eat from the 'forbidden' tree.

they DID break the law though, and look at what happened to us.

better yet let's just get rid of the law, and everyone just exercise their freewill. and don't tell me 'as long as I don't hurt nobody' BECAUSE then you are controlling my freewill.

freewill was given to allow you to use it sensibly - proactively, not reactively.

you do have freewill - break the law all you want - but everyone else has freewill and can break the law too - yes, even God's law - and when you get 'done in' by others exercising their freewill, then what?


:eek:

If freewill was 'all good' then God won't be coming back to judge us and punish us for exercising it.

better yet let's just get rid of the law, and everyone just exercise their freewill. and don't tell me 'as long as I don't hurt nobody' BECAUSE then you are controlling my freewill.

freewill was given to allow you to use it sensibly - proactively, not reactively.

you do have freewill - break the law all you want - but everyone else has freewill and can break the law too - yes, even God's law - and when you get 'done in' by others exercising their freewill, then what?


YAHWEH does not punish for the execution of free will, He punishes those who've transgressed His law AND rejected grace.

Yeshua Bar Yoseph had free will, did He not? And wasn't He 'done in' anyway?

But tell me something, why is Yeshua Bar Yoseph The Firstborn of The Dead? Grace.
What did Yeshua ask YAHWEH to do on the cross, in spite of the pride and ignorance of the people who directly and/or indirectly conspired to kill Him?
"Father...forgive them..."
What did Noah find in the eyes of The Lord? Grace. Not Law.
When Abraham was prepared to sacrifice what dear to him...Grace. Not Law, because by LAW and man's law he would've had to go through with it. If Abraham loved Isaac more than he loved YAHWEH, he would be in violation of the 1st commandment (Having another god before HIM).**

**Yes, I'm well aware that the 10 commandments weren't given yet. But Abraham knew as we ought to, that obedience is better than sacrifice.

When YAHWEH sought out Sodom and Gomorrah, what did Abraham say? "Burn the 'shafties'" or did he bargain for grace?

What did parietal_03 say when certain members of The Masonic Lodge produced documents to repossess his Bahamian house, because he spoke out too much concerning their esoteric beliefs? Grace.
And the result? parietal_03 has a "two-better." A HOME with a WIFE (whose heart he also lives in) that means so much more to him that the Bahamian one EVER did.
My faith is not in human nature bsmbahamas it is in the power of YAHWEH. Grace brings bigger and better things, people, occurrences beyond imaginings than Law ever can. So while some are focused on civil/social ills and on 'what might happen' I gat my eyesalve on.

sorry parietal, you really lost me this time.

and vicky, I was trying to say that that exercising free will will not always hurt people in a viewable physical way, but many times it will hurt mentally and will hurt the body of those affected in unseen ways.

like how verbal abuse toward your wife might not hurt her physically, but may lead to many diseases from the hate she develops, and maybe even you being killed by your wife.

it doesn't happen quickly, and it is not always visible, but what is unseen happens anyway.

sorry parietal, you really lost me this time.

LOL

NO SIR! Absolutely not! And THAT right there is one of the reasons as to why freewill exists. YOU, my good sir, are held accountable for YOUR "lost" and "found."
I didn't lose you. Don't blame that on me.

I'll say it again.
YAHWEH does not punish for the execution of free will, He punishes those who've transgressed His law AND rejected grace.
Rest assured no matter how bad things get messed up here, YAHWEH gat ya back. Ain't He promised that?
That said, let "them" (those that persecute you, and/or choose an alternate way of life than you) have their way with their free will (for some, sadly, that's the only real talent they gat) give it to them and watch glory happen.

If you can't understand what is being said in this post, do not blame me or say I've lost you.

and the toothfairy and bugs bunny are coming to dinner.

Logic-bending commentary from an adult who resides in The Commonwealth of The Bahamas under the delusion that it is a 3rd world country.


"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--From Hamlet (I, v, 166-167)

Hamlet speaks these lines to his friend Horatio. The sentries who keep night watch over the castle at Elsinore have seen an apparition of the ghost of the late king of Denmark, Hamlet's father. Although Horatio pleads with the ghost to speak to them, it refuses and disappears at morning light. Horatio tells Hamlet about it the next night, believing that the ghost will only speak with his son. Hamlet goes off with the ghost, where he learns that his father was murdered by his own brother, Claudius, who has now taken the crown for himself. When Hamlet returns to Horatio, who expresses his bewilderment over the apparition, Hamlet points out that ghosts speaking, and brothers murdering, and wives remarrying may exist outside the moral framework of the average man….but that these things occur in the real world.

http://www.yahweh.com/boyorderform.htm
Second of all, Super-Dee-Dooper Thorough-Boy if this is an example of the extent of your exertions and accomplishments as it pertains to sentry and security (when the only task is to research the word "YAHWEH"), your customers and co-workers have much to fear.

BRAINWASHED!!!!

Now THAT is irony, you've somehow managed to pick an aptly named thread to exercise your killer-keen judgement skills.
Son, if insults and sarcasm are all you have left to offer because you've used up all your good material in typing the "!!?" after "search engine" in post #57, Rory...honey...that's OK you know. I mean...your inability to thoroughly research the word "YAHWEH", that's OK, I'm sure it happens to alot of men.

And I think it's rather cute that you keep your two bestest friends in the whole willy-wide world, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny so close at heart. And even keep them in mind for reference in adult discussions!
It's fine...people have them over for dinner all the time. I'm sure.
--pats Rory on the head-- They were right, you ARE almost endearing!


Cave ipsissima fatti: Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis.

Beware the very deed: An exception establishes the rule as to things not excepted.

Poor, poor man indeed...you will be ignored from now on.

actually parietal, I think we are more trying to just preach to the deliquent.

they are getting their way, with or without us.

and they will all be dealt with for abusing their independent will, conscience, self-awareness and imagination.

they are responsible for the world rushing at light speed to the last days.

and they are so blinded that they can't even see what they are doing, perverting justice, changing all the rules ...

problem is their freewill makes my short life and my family's life worse with every passing day.

but alas, one day soon, God will sort everything out.

actually parietal, I think we are more trying to just preach to the deliquent.

they are getting their way, with or without us.

and they will all be dealt with for abusing their independent will, conscience, self-awareness and imagination.

they are responsible for the world rushing at light speed to the last days.

and they are so blinded that they can't even see what they are doing, perverting justice, changing all the rules ...

problem is their freewill makes my short life and my family's life worse with every passing day.

but alas, one day soon, God will sort everything out.


Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for...

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for...


you said it, and we have much more persecution to come ...

you said it, and we have much more persecution to come ...


Ya, but what happens to those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake?

Logic-bending commentary from an adult who resides in The Commonwealth of The Bahamas under the delusion that it is a 3rd world country.


"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--From Hamlet (I, v, 166-167)

Hamlet speaks these lines to his friend Horatio. The sentries who keep night watch over the castle at Elsinore have seen an apparition of the ghost of the late king of Denmark, Hamlet's father. Although Horatio pleads with the ghost to speak to them, it refuses and disappears at morning light. Horatio tells Hamlet about it the next night, believing that the ghost will only speak with his son. Hamlet goes off with the ghost, where he learns that his father was murdered by his own brother, Claudius, who has now taken the crown for himself. When Hamlet returns to Horatio, who expresses his bewilderment over the apparition, Hamlet points out that ghosts speaking, and brothers murdering, and wives remarrying may exist outside the moral framework of the average man….but that these things occur in the real world.


Second of all, Super-Dee-Dooper Thorough-Boy if this is an example of the extent of your exertions and accomplishments as it pertains to sentry and security (when the only task is to research the word "YAHWEH"), your customers and co-workers have much to fear.



WHAT A WHACKO, THIS BOY NEEDS TO BUY A CLUE - I MEAN HAMLET, SUPERDEEDOOPER, END OF THE WORLD, WHAT A DORK