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Alien
08-21-07, - 10:46 AM
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=13816
Well, at least he does not sound too unconcerned. However, I still think they showed scant regards. With this, even though he says they may revisit the option of airlifting if it needs be again at another time *cough cough bullsh1t cough cough*, what he should have said with this, is that not only will they demand that these people check in with the embassies, but, the GOVERNMENT, should take stock on people with visas in other countries.

Does Symonette, mean to say that he does not know who has a visa from this country, or, he cannot find out exactly who travvelled in and out of this country to Jamaica on a visa?

My God. Say it ain't so. Say it ain't so...please!

In any event, if they don't know who has a visa in this country, my God, what else don't they know!?!?

Anyways, if the situation in Jamaica gets tense, they should not bypass the possibility that airlifting may be needed AFTER the hurricane has passed, and, after they check to make "sure", then do so if it is needed. But, don't sit back and wait to see if things pan out and *GASP* pray. The Jamaican PM is stating a month of national emergency; pray tell, how can Symonette forcast something different, when the PM of the country, who has been there for quite some time now, is saying otherwise. Regardless of what you think, I does get Fox News ova here!
:taped2:

With this, this man and his PM, just a month ago, SNUBBED the Caribbean community, by not showing up to a general CARICOM meeting; or showing up when they felt like. And now, he calls the same people who he dissed, to check if whether or not "our people" are in proper faccilities? The Bahamas is expected to chair the CARICOM general assembly the next sitting.

I don't think he sees a problem with this. I thank the student for briging this to our attention. This to me, was a formality. My God, even Jamaicans abroad are bracing for the supplies they have to send home TO THEIR PEOPLE, my goodness, we should go and check afterwards as well.

I would not leave the safety of our citizens, to any country unless it is the US or the UK and even THEN, they ga have to show me what da deal is.

Excalibur
08-21-07, - 10:52 AM
In any event, if they don't know who has a visa in this country, my God, what else don't they know!?!?


You read it wrong.
He was saying they wanted to know and keep records of Bahamians in other countries with study visas.

They have a list of people (non-Bahamians) with visas in the Bahamas already.

When I first went off to school, I called the High Commission and registered. They were so surprised they called me back and said thanks, lol! Bahamian hardly register and that is what the DMP was/is saying, the GOVERNMENT, should take stock on people (Bahamians) with visas in other countries.

It was also on the news last night so I got the full grasp.

12play
08-21-07, - 11:01 AM
Stop picking on Brent..he may be rich but that does not mean that he is politically savvy. The piling on should stop.:taped2: :

diarra
08-21-07, - 11:10 AM
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=13816
Well, at least he does not sound too unconcerned. However, I still think they showed scant regards. With this, even though he says they may revisit the option of airlifting if it needs be again at another time *cough cough bullsh1t cough cough*, what he should have said with this, is that not only will they demand that these people check in with the embassies, but, the GOVERNMENT, should take stock on people with visas in other countries.
Does Symonette, mean to say that he does not know who has a visa from this country, or, he cannot find out exactly who travvelled in and out of this country to Jamaica on a visa?
My God. Say it ain't so. Say it ain't so...please!
In any event, if they don't know who has a visa in this country, my God, what else don't they know!?!?
Anyways, if the situation in Jamaica gets tense, they should not bypass the possibility that airlifting may be needed AFTER the hurricane has passed, and, after they check to make "sure", then do so if it is needed. But, don't sit back and wait to see if things pan out and *GASP* pray. The Jamaican PM is stating a month of national emergency; pray tell, how can Symonette forcast something different, when the PM of the country, who has been there for quite some time now, is saying otherwise. Regardless of what you think, I does get Fox News ova here!
:taped2:
With this, this man and his PM, just a month ago, SNUBBED the Caribbean community, by not showing up to a general CARICOM meeting; or showing up when they felt like. And now, he calls the same people who he dissed, to check if whether or not "our people" are in proper faccilities? The Bahamas is expected to chair the CARICOM general assembly the next sitting.
I don't think he sees a problem with this. I thank the student for briging this to our attention. This to me, was a formality. My God, even Jamaicans abroad are bracing for the supplies they have to send home TO THEIR PEOPLE, my goodness, we should go and check afterwards as well.
I would not leave the safety of our citizens, to any country unless it is the US or the UK and even THEN, they ga have to show me what da deal is.

Even in your attempt to seem objective, your insatiable political agenda over shadows any rational thought.

In any situation, it is incumbent upon the individual to notify their Embassy who has jurisdictional responsibility of the location. Ya see it all goes back to the stupid mentality of "my government is my daddy."

Ya'll really need to stop ya'll "foolishness" (For lack of a better group of words I wanna use)

Alien
08-21-07, - 11:26 AM
You read it wrong.
He was saying they wanted to know and keep records of Bahamians in other countries with study visas.
You een get it. THEY SHOULD KNOW!
:gi:




They have a list of people (non-Bahamians) with visas in the Bahamas already.
When I first went off to school, I called the High Commission and registered. They were so surprised they called me back and said thanks, lol! Bahamian hardly register and that is what the DMP was/is saying, the GOVERNMENT, should take stock on people (Bahamians) with visas in other countries.
It was also on the news last night so I got the full grasp.


Do you mean to tell me, that a country as small as this, and even that is no excuse, that our officials would NOT know that the Bahamian passport, the property of the Bahamian government in case you did not know, has passed out of this country for visa approval for another country. Even before it is stamped by travel officials, and, even before the foreign country offering the visa, double checks to make sure that this person is in fact a Bahamian?

On top of this, UWI has a register. The register would say who or who is not a Jamaican student.

Alien
08-21-07, - 11:36 AM
Stop picking on Brent..he may be rich but that does not mean that he is politically savvy. The piling on should stop.:taped2: :

This is why we talk about him, to get some of these people sensitized to the issues. He was wrong and he knows he was wrong. This is why he came out trying to defend it, and this is why these people on this site, came out trying to defend a stupid position. My God. He not only appeared to be out of touch, but, his supporters who follow him are as well. And, if people did not pick up on this, they would have continued on in this fashion. Having cake, and telling everyone else to go get cake to.
:taped2:

At least he knows better for next time. I hope so.
:)



Even in your attempt to seem objective, your insatiable political agenda over shadows any rational thought.
Put a sock in it. It is not me defending some politician, lying to myself and trying to lie to everyone else, in saying that this was cool. With that, don't put me in the box because I een agree with your overlord. He was wrong, he appeared to be out of touch and even he knows it. This was why he responded. Stop trying to defend stupidness, when even HE realizes he bungled, or at the very least, looked very bad political wise.


In any situation, it is incumbent upon the individual to notify their Embassy who has jurisdictional responsibility of the location. Ya see it all goes back to the stupid mentality of "my government is my daddy."
Dude. THE BAHAMIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD KNOW. With that, the UWI has a register. With that, the Bahamian passport, property of the Bahamian government, the government as such should know who has altered their document. With that, they did not even check. How did the PLP get them out in 2004. How does he know that only medical students are there THIS time; Symonette does?

Quit defending stupidness and lies.



Ya'll really need to stop ya'll "foolishness" (For lack of a better group of words I wanna use)
Look, he defended his position; as indefensible as it is. He was wrong and he realizes he was wrong.

With this, when you was cryin about "da gubment een create no jobs" when it was the PLP, you was not cryin about big daddy gubment den. Even when in Freeport...A FREE-PORT...was in utter shambles, and yet, you blamed the gubment for lack of investment and then, after a company came, you attacked, YOU IN PARTICULAR, attacked the company. Then you have the audacity, to say that I, Alien, in looking out for MY BAHAMIAN PEOPLE, is playing politics with a national disaster?

Amazing!

Excalibur
08-21-07, - 12:01 PM
You een get it. THEY SHOULD KNOW!


They should after the student lets them know they are going for that reason, to study. When you leave the Bahamas you are not asked why you are traveling, it’s the arrival process. When you arrive to the Bahamas they ask or enter other countries they ask because they are the ones who really should know why you are in their country.


Do you mean to tell me, that a country as small as this, and even that is no excuse, that our officials would NOT know that the Bahamian passport, the property of the Bahamian government in case you did not know, has passed out of this country for visa approval for another country.


No, the US is not required to tell the Bahamas they approved a visa
And places like Canada and some European countries does not even put the visa in your passport, in case you did not know, so how is the Bahamas suppose to know.


Even before it is stamped by travel officials, and, even before the foreign country offering the visa, double checks to make sure that this person is in fact a Bahamian?

It would not make a difference. My Bahamian passport showed I was a Bahamian, and even before it was stamped or even after would not make a difference because my student visa was not in my passport. So how are they supposed to know? Its something you have to declare and the DMP is right here.


On top of this, UWI has a register. The register would say who or who is not a Jamaican student.


So does COB, Their register would say who or who is not a Bahamian student. But the example you gave and I have has nothing really to do at the Diplomatic level as it is what you brought up originally.

Excalibur
08-21-07, - 12:02 PM
Even in your attempt to seem objective, your insatiable political agenda over shadows any rational thought.
In any situation, it is incumbent upon the individual to notify their Embassy who has jurisdictional responsibility of the location. Ya see it all goes back to the stupid mentality of "my government is my daddy."


I agree!

diarra
08-21-07, - 12:11 PM
This is why we talk about him, to get some of these people sensitized to the issues. He was wrong and he knows he was wrong. This is why he came out trying to defend it, and this is why these people on this site, came out trying to defend a stupid position. My God. He not only appeared to be out of touch, but, his supporters who follow him are as well. And, if people did not pick up on this, they would have continued on in this fashion. Having cake, and telling everyone else to go get cake to.
:taped2:
At least he knows better for next time. I hope so.
:)
Put a sock in it. It is not me defending some politician, lying to myself and trying to lie to everyone else, in saying that this was cool. With that, don't put me in the box because I een agree with your overlord. He was wrong, he appeared to be out of touch and even he knows it. This was why he responded. Stop trying to defend stupidness, when even HE realizes he bungled, or at the very least, looked very bad political wise.
Dude. THE BAHAMIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD KNOW. With that, the UWI has a register. With that, the Bahamian passport, property of the Bahamian government, the government as such should know who has altered their document. With that, they did not even check. How did the PLP get them out in 2004. How does he know that only medical students are there THIS time; Symonette does?
Quit defending stupidness and lies.
Look, he defended his position; as indefensible as it is. He was wrong and he realizes he was wrong.
With this, when you was cryin about "da gubment een create no jobs" when it was the PLP, you was not cryin about big daddy gubment den. Even when in Freeport...A FREE-PORT...was in utter shambles, and yet, you blamed the gubment for lack of investment and then, after a company came, you attacked, YOU IN PARTICULAR, attacked the company. Then you have the audacity, to say that I, Alien, in looking out for MY BAHAMIAN PEOPLE, is playing politics with a national disaster?
Amazing!

Unless any of us have been privy to any communication between our Government or officials and any official of either UWI/ the Jamaican Government/ our honorary Consul for the area or just someone of that sort..... our attempt to rationalize , critique or analyse the Government's position is exactly what it has been..... political speculation using the guise of false nationalist interest.

The fact remains, none of us know what investigations where done, by whom, how they where done or what assurances may of been given that all sensible precautions where being made to afford any "registered" Bahamian national the safest and most humanely comfortable accommodations during this storm.

As far as the reference to Freeport and the "Company" that recently went belly up. As a matter of record, as I'm sure you have done your research being as thorough as you are, was not best industry player to the begin the development of the technology sector in the Bahamas. I knew about the company for quite a while, previous to the announcement in the Bahamas, just as a simple matter of fact because I once held them in a mutual fund portfolio and I dropped them bcuz they fell to literally a few cents a share based on their product quality and business model. Nonetheless.... the end result speaks louder and with more clarity than I ever could. Where are they now?

U can create a job in construction but once that construction is done what do you really have..... unemployed, minimally skilled Bahamian who lookin to "da guberment" for that next job. Diversification shouldn't mean placing the same type of job on a different Island for a period of time. It should mean you attract progressive industry players who have a long term plan with an undeniably useful product. My suggestions where chip or silicone product manufacturing. All we gat is sand and we in one of the most profitable shipping lanes in the world. We have had very few ppl in any government that can identify industries and develop plans to get them home for the very same reasons that I now identify as the basis of your ideology......

Alien
08-21-07, - 12:13 PM
They should after the student lets them know they are going for that reason, to study. When you leave the Bahamas you are not asked why you are traveling, it’s the arrival process. When you arrive to the Bahamas they ask or enter other countries they ask because they are the ones who really should know why you are in their country.
You run away from the fact that there is a list of who is there from who is not there. These is a list of these people, especially if they come into the country via plane on a visa. My God. How did the PLP find them in 2004?

:gi:


No, the US is not required to tell the Bahamas they approved a visa
And places like Canada and some European countries does not even put the visa in your passport, in case you did not know, so how is the Bahamas suppose to know.
Horse radish. You need to provide your passport, in order to be verified for a foreign visa. Second, there is a list where they are tracked and kept. How else you we know who are criminals, evading the authorities ma bhey?
LOL....
:gi:
This is even before we talk about Bahamian/Jamaican immigration issues, in regards to visa holders on both sides.

With this, why are you now defending the issue, from the fact that "these people did not register", so, is that a reason to not go and check for them, and, to now say that "from why they heard, the faccilities are "ok" "....lol....

Incredible.


It would not make a difference. My Bahamian passport showed I was a Bahamian, and even before it was stamped or even after would not make a difference because my student visa was not in my passport. So how are they supposed to know? Its something you have to declare and the DMP is right here.
Dude. They ask you to register, so they can make it easy for THEM. This does NOT mean that they can't find out who and where you are; especially if your passport is needed to get a visa, like in every case it is, from another country. This is it. This is an emergency, and, this is probably one of the things that can go wrong when trying to find your people in the midst of a national emergency. This is just it. Go check on your people.
:taped2:


So does COB, Their register would say who or who is not a Bahamian student. But the example you gave and I have has nothing really to do at the Diplomatic level as it is what you brought up originally.

Yes. Because, there is a way to find out who is where and why. Look, even he said that the students there are medical students, so, how would he know unless he went and TRIED to check.

LOL.....

Alien
08-21-07, - 12:14 PM
I agree!


You and he are wrong. To be honest, when this thing started, I thought a plane was on the way. It is after I had to re-read the email on the thread, when I realized that "oh cranberries", not only he even een send a plane, he even een check and he even een know he had to check.
:gi:

Alien
08-21-07, - 12:33 PM
Unless any of us have been privy to any communication between our Government or officials and any official of either UWI/ the Jamaican Government/ our honorary Consul for the area or just someone of that sort..... our attempt to rationalize , critique or analyse the Government's position is exactly what it has been..... political speculation using the guise of false nationalist interest.
Dude. Our kids are in piss-poor Jamaica with a hurricane worse than the one before. We don't need no special government report, to tell us that maybe, just maybe, we should plan for some sort of aid to not only our students, but, to the people of Jamaica?

Ya think!?!
:gi:


The fact remains, none of us know what investigations where done, by whom, how they where done or what assurances may of been given that all sensible precautions where being made to afford any "registered" Bahamian national the safest and most humanely comfortable accommodations during this storm.
Wrong. I see it was not done properly, and without care or concern for the Bahamian students. This is why the student had to send an email, and say, dude, at least go and check. How did the PLP find them in 2004 diara?
:gi:

So, you can TRY to muddy the issues all you like; you will only confuse yourself, and then, make you and these people sound like liars. Just say you messed up, and move on and try to do better. If the situation in Jamaica gets bad, my God, don't rule out the possibility of sending emergency aid to who needs it, or, who can't get out.

Check the UWI register, call the parents, and "ask them", if they know where their kids are. Just do it.


As far as the reference to Freeport and the "Company" that recently went belly up. As a matter of record, as I'm sure you have done your research being as thorough as you are, was not best industry player to the begin the development of the technology sector in the Bahamas.
And the market decided that. However, in a FREE-PORT, he was allowed to try. However, you people killed it before it even found a way to possibly work. LOL...
That's the thing. He invested his money, not the Bahamas government.

With that, going belly up, is far different from the crap I heard just a few months back about; the man is a dirty businessman, and his companyt is riddled with crooks. It is restructuring as far as I know....but, I am not obsessed with it.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/news/news.asp?symbol=PGSW.OB


Snip.


Just after the hurricane, go make sure all heads are accounted for. If help is needed, make sure it can get there. No stupid excuses about no register, or, they in hidin; check the UWI register, or, liase with the Jamaican government in regards to student visa holders in Jamaica, and then call the parents to see if word has been sent of their safety.

ching357
08-22-07, - 08:47 AM
If the papers were correct in saying the parents were highly upset that the government didnot send a plane for their children,then i cry shame of them ,why the hell they didn't make preparation for their kids to get out why were they looking for a free ride.These days no bahamian want to take care of there own it's always put it in the hands of the gubb-ment.they are worthless parents if they didnot send there kids on a round trip ticket and if that's the case sound like they was all to glad to see their child go from around them as far as they see it let someone else have that responsiblity for a while.:liar:

ching357
08-22-07, - 08:52 AM
This is why we talk about him, to get some of these people sensitized to the issues. He was wrong and he knows he was wrong. This is why he came out trying to defend it, and this is why these people on this site, came out trying to defend a stupid position. My God. He not only appeared to be out of touch, but, his supporters who follow him are as well. And, if people did not pick up on this, they would have continued on in this fashion. Having cake, and telling everyone else to go get cake to.
:taped2:
At least he knows better for next time. I hope so.
:)
Put a sock in it. It is not me defending some politician, lying to myself and trying to lie to everyone else, in saying that this was cool. With that, don't put me in the box because I een agree with your overlord. He was wrong, he appeared to be out of touch and even he knows it. This was why he responded. Stop trying to defend stupidness, when even HE realizes he bungled, or at the very least, looked very bad political wise.
Dude. THE BAHAMIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD KNOW. With that, the UWI has a register. With that, the Bahamian passport, property of the Bahamian government, the government as such should know who has altered their document. With that, they did not even check. How did the PLP get them out in 2004. How does he know that only medical students are there THIS time; Symonette does?
Quit defending stupidness and lies.
Look, he defended his position; as indefensible as it is. He was wrong and he realizes he was wrong.
With this, when you was cryin about "da gubment een create no jobs" when it was the PLP, you was not cryin about big daddy gubment den. Even when in Freeport...A FREE-PORT...was in utter shambles, and yet, you blamed the gubment for lack of investment and then, after a company came, you attacked, YOU IN PARTICULAR, attacked the company. Then you have the audacity, to say that I, Alien, in looking out for MY BAHAMIAN PEOPLE, is playing politics with a national disaster?
Amazing!
Who or what ever you are,it's a shame.
You are very bias and could never be objective you are to die-hard,learn to be a bahamian first and then maybe you will become an objective person.
You like they say PLP or NOTHING,me BAHAMIAN FIRST THEN MY CHOICE WHEN I HAVE TO >

Alien
08-22-07, - 12:02 PM
Who or what ever you are,it's a shame.
You are very bias and could never be objective you are to die-hard,learn to be a bahamian first and then maybe you will become an objective person.
You like they say PLP or NOTHING,me BAHAMIAN FIRST THEN MY CHOICE WHEN I HAVE TO >


Yinna so unoriginal...no immagination. Get yer own lyrics, den, say somethin different.
:voodoo: