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Rory
08-25-07, - 04:34 AM
Former Police Commissioner Reflects On Crime Problems

Reiterating the opinions of community and civic leaders, former Commissioner of Police Bernard K. Bonamy has blamed a lack of adequate parenting skills for the crime scourge that is plaguing the country.

A coalition of citizens against crime has proposed a national programme to strengthen parenting skills as a critical move in addressing the factors that contribute to crime.

Mr. Bonamy said that parents must take full responsibility for how they socialize their children.

http://jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=13880

c4riddim
08-25-07, - 10:21 AM
Well that makes some sence that the parents must take a great deal of responsibility for this. I feel that a simple thing that parents can do to slow this crimewave is to know where your children are in the evening. If you have 11 and 12 year old boys hanging on the blocks in the night with grown men something is wrong. We have to realize that these criminals just aint appear out of nowhere these are people that we went to school with and it makes you wonder what changed. Prob cuz wen you was home doing homework they was out there hustling or something

CG
08-25-07, - 11:34 AM
I agree. But how can they teach their children what they themselves dont know? Think how bad it will be when these kids grow up and start having kids. They also will not be able to teach what they never learned.

Great Demos
08-26-07, - 10:46 AM
I agree. But how can they teach their children what they themselves dont know? Think how bad it will be when these kids grow up and start having kids. They also will not be able to teach what they never learned.

True!

We probably need a program to teach the young parents about parenting, and this is something that should have been started long ago..

I think this crime business goes very deep and we can't really blame any ONE entity like schools, teachers, the police, the parents, govt, the home (are there many homes left!?). All of us in some way should bear the blame!..

I strongly believe that the big culprit that has contributed to most of our crimes is our seemingly ingrained nature to take TOO long to correct or solve problems, and not to enforce our laws.. Seems that we just love to wait forever and merely hope that problems would solve themselves!

[Take the traffic congestion on this island (NP).....How much concerted effort has been made to try to correct this problem over the years!? And WHY is nothing much being done!? Our authorities are just waiting too long..]

fasttract
08-26-07, - 12:40 PM
Former Police Commissioner Reflects On Crime Problems
Reiterating the opinions of community and civic leaders, former Commissioner of Police Bernard K. Bonamy has blamed a lack of adequate parenting skills for the crime scourge that is plaguing the country.
A coalition of citizens against crime has proposed a national programme to strengthen parenting skills as a critical move in addressing the factors that contribute to crime.
Mr. Bonamy said that parents must take full responsibility for how they socialize their children.
http://jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=13880

Many of our crimes are cause by men/women who just DON'T care about themself or any one anymore. They have lost all sence of decency.Many parents are also kids them-self ,push into life they are not prepare for.
Many are fooling around and still don't reconize the danger of their action.
Morality as gone out of our nation,respect for other people as gone also .Why because many are turning away from God and his laws.If we don't respect GOD'S law, how could we respect our own law,That is to governers us.We must return to God way of living if we want to change what is happening in our country.

Rory
08-26-07, - 01:20 PM
We must return to God way of living if we want to change what is happening in our country.

That seems to be one of the biggest misconceptions in the Bahamas. One does not need to be a Christian or goto church, to know right from wrong or to follow the laws of the land. Think about it this way, the majority of criminals in the Bahamas are Christians, and many of them goto Church or worship in some way or another. It takes more than just a belief in a book to be a good person. And even for those that may follow the good book, there is not one human on earth that is not without sin.

CG
08-26-07, - 01:25 PM
That seems to be one of the biggest misconceptions in the Bahamas. One does not need to be a Christian or goto church, to know right from wrong or to follow the laws of the land. Think about it this way, the majority of criminals in the Bahamas are Christians, and many of them goto Church or worship in some way or another. It takes more than just a belief in a book to be a good person.

Well, he has a point. Subscribing to a religious belief can be a good way to stabilize a country, if enough believe and follow. But that does not look very likely here any time soon.

Rory
08-26-07, - 01:28 PM
Well, he has a point. Subscribing to a religious belief can be a good way to stabilize a country, if enough believe and follow. But that does not look very likely here any time soon.

Sure, look at Iran; fundamental Christianity would not be much different. ;)

fasttract
08-26-07, - 01:37 PM
That seems to be one of the biggest misconceptions in the Bahamas. One does not need to be a Christian or goto church, to know right from wrong or to follow the laws of the land. Think about it this way, the majority of criminals in the Bahamas are Christians, and many of them goto Church or worship in some way or another. It takes more than just a belief in a book to be a good person. And even for those that may follow the good book, there is not one human on earth that is not without sin.

what about those that don't believe they get of scott free.come on man .am sure if one check the background of most of these person they have never read or know or even heard about God.even in our small country.so i don't agree with your comment that crime are being committed by christian the most.come on.

CG
08-26-07, - 01:44 PM
Sure, look at Iran; fundamental Christianity would not be much different. ;)

You are confusing a Religious state with Religious persons. It is quite possible to have a secular state peopled with folks that have a strong religious ethic. In fact that would be the best of both worlds.

Rory
08-26-07, - 01:45 PM
what about those that don't believe they get of scott free.come on man .am sure if one check the background of most of these person they have never read or know or even heard about God.even in our small country.so i don't agree with your comment that crime are being committed by christian the most.come on.

Why does it surprise you? Most, if not all of our Schools are Christian, and have church services and such, so I would imagine they partook in the religion at some time in their life. Whether or not they still goto church is irrelevant, the fact remains that most Bahamians grow up and live in a Christian Society, the Bahamian Society, and one does not have to goto Church to be a Christian. When they die, it can be pretty much guaranteed that they will have a Christian burial, either by their Family or by the State.

Regardless of that, there are obviously more Christians in Prison, than atheists. I would mention other religions but they are such a small minority that it does not pertain to this post.

Rory
08-26-07, - 01:47 PM
You are confusing a Religious state with Religious persons. It is quite possible to have a secular state peopled with folks that have a strong religious ethic. In fact that would be the best of both worlds.

That would be nice, but it would not happen that way; look at it now. In most Born again Christians eyes, a non born again Christian is typically not even a Christian, and those that dont goto church are typically seen as being evil. "If you ain't in Church on Sunday you mussee be out robbin someone!"

CG
08-26-07, - 01:51 PM
That would be nice, but it would not happen that way; look at it now. In most Born again Christians eyes, a non born again Christian is typically not even a Christian, and those that dont goto church are typically seen as being evil. "If you ain't in Church on Sunday you mussee be out robbin someone!"

There very thing I was lamenting! The true meaning of religion has been lost in the rush for each to outshine the other.

Rory
08-26-07, - 01:52 PM
There very thing I was lamenting! The true meaning of religion has been lost in the rush for each to outshine the other.

Right but the bottom line, the one I was getting at, was that one does not have to be a Christian to be a good person, and one is no more evil than a Christian, if they are not a Christian. In other words, one can be a good parent without being "born again"!

How about this quote .. "If I wasn't a Christian I'd ...."

Vicky
08-26-07, - 02:08 PM
Well that makes some sence that the parents must take a great deal of responsibility for this. I feel that a simple thing that parents can do to slow this crimewave is to know where your children are in the evening. If you have 11 and 12 year old boys hanging on the blocks in the night with grown men something is wrong. We have to realize that these criminals just aint appear out of nowhere these are people that we went to school with and it makes you wonder what changed. Prob cuz wen you was home doing homework they was out there hustling or something

How about those that are thrown out of the house because they are gender dysphoric.
How about a 16 year old who died of Aids because she/he was thrown out of the house at the age of 14 with only the clothes on her/his back. Yeah right here in the Bahamas. What do you think she/he did to eat the next day?? I will give you 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count. Yeah she/he was hanging round grown men, men who took advantage of her/him. Her beautiful light is gone forever because of pure ignorance on her parents and societies part.