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trevis
08-28-07, - 05:09 PM
Watching the daily news and reading and seeing so much of what is currently taking place in the Bahamas has me very concerned. Some of those very scary issues are

1) Rise in Crime
2) Bacardi pull out
3) Lessening appeal of Nassau/Paradise Island for tourists
4) Grand Bahama's stagnant economy, etc, etc.

Living in Turks & Caicos, just a few miles off the southern Bahamas, we have been experiencing unprecedented growth and when I compare my home with turks, I'm saddened to see what's happening. If the Bahamas does not begin to address some very pertinent issues such as the redevelopment of downtown nassau, re-vitalizing Grand Bahama's economy and tackling crime, I fear that we may very well become the next Jamaica within the next 5-10 years. Turks has definitely taken a page out of the Bahamas' book and they are running with it and should the Bahamas fail to address many issues including the ones i stated above, it is my sincere belief that Turks will become the next Bahamas.

I will admit that we Bahamians are one biggetty set of people and we seem to believe that we are always gonna be on top of things in the Caribbean and that tourists and investors must come to the bahamas; that is simply not so! with the unions and most recently the way in which investors are seemingly being treated by the very people that are parading around nassau saying that the bahamas needs more investment, it is no wonder why investments in the past have made their way to cayman islands and turks to name a few (two in fact that was originally intended for Freeport have come to turks). we are taking too long to make a decision on many major projects and a lot of us believe that if one goes there will be ten more coming because this is the bahamas. i know turks still has a ways to go but look at the statistics because they are up for turks and the bahamas seems to be taking a blow from left, right and center. what was once a relatively unknown place is set to become the jewel in the region as it appears the bahamas is on a downward spiral and turks may become the next bahamas. what do you think?

1bigfrog
08-28-07, - 05:20 PM
Let's pray Turks has better management and less corruption...As with progress and big city attributes...crime and poverty tends to increase...plus a swell of population.

NetConnect
08-28-07, - 05:25 PM
I Know a bunch of Bahamians that went there for employment from Freeport, they are happy with it there.

dadon
08-28-07, - 05:33 PM
Work for a engineering firm. We are flooded with work in the TCI. It is learning from our mistakes and putting a better foot forward that makes them more attractive. Europeans are heavy there and not as much lawyers robbing you and environmentalists, etc. breathing fire at you.

licks2
08-28-07, - 05:54 PM
Ha...those Islands have already started on its "downward" spiral! For example, "belongers" are already second class citizens in their own country!:cool:

Man when I went to grace bay hotel fer dinner I tink I was in the DR,JA or Haiti...natives are already and endangered specie there!
Them people gat that place all tied up...right down to jitney drivin! :p

Just take ya sef oof the main highway in provo and go down to five cays or blue hills...there is ya "next bahamas"...the future of you becoming! Take for instance, the bight...opulance is "pushing" them poor folk literally outta they yards and homes! Don even talk about realestate outsiade of five cays, the bight and blue hills...outta the little man reach! I guess ya ger run to them other two islands left in the hands of the "lil" people...but I forget...most er them belong to plenty bahamians of turks decent and ting too!:cool:

Ya know like them Forbes, Rigbys, Handfields, Gardiners, Jollys, mills, greenes, williams, pratts and walkins etc.

To tell ya the truth, them problems that the Bahamas is now experienceing...the ones yall say ger sink us...are the ones TI gat right outta the gate of their development! Only ting...we could kick lil bit before them "outta towners" hit the last blow to us from the outside...but TI is owned and its international relation with the outside world is controlled by "outsiders"!:rolleyes:

Now go down to chalk sound or tto the opposite third or so of the island where ya get the ferry to go to North Caicos...the haves! Who are they?:cutie:

babychase1
08-28-07, - 06:34 PM
Ha...those Islands have already started on its "downward" spiral! For example, "belongers" are already second class citizens in their own country!:cool:
Man when I went to grace bay hotel fer dinner I tink I was in the DR,JA or Haiti...natives are already and endangered specie there!
Them people gat that place all tied up...right down to jitney drivin! :p
Just take ya sef oof the main highway in provo and go down to five cays or blue hills...there is ya "next bahamas"...the future of you becoming! Take for instance, the bight...opulance is "pushing" them poor folk literally outta they yards and homes! Don even talk about realestate outsiade of five cays, the bight and blue hills...outta the little man reach! I guess ya ger run to them other two islands left in the hands of the "lil" people...but I forget...most er them belong to plenty bahamians of turks decent and ting too!:cool:
Ya know like them Forbes, Rigbys, Handfields, Gardiners, Jollys, mills, greenes, williams, pratts and walkins etc.
To tell ya the truth, them problems that the Bahamas is now experienceing...the ones yall say ger sink us...are the ones TI gat right outta the gate of their development! Only ting...we could kick lil bit before them "outta towners" hit the last blow to us from the outside...but TI is owned and its international relation with the outside world is controlled by "outsiders"!:rolleyes:
Now go down to chalk sound or tto the opposite third or so of the island where ya get the ferry to go to North Caicos...the haves! Who are they?:cutie:


Besides Turks and Caicos doesn't have the landmass that we have in the Bahamas. They will be over-developed in a very short peroid of time.

diarra
08-28-07, - 06:40 PM
Besides Turks and Caicos doesn't have the landmass that we have in the Bahamas. They will be over-developed in a very short peroid of time.

Damn! Give em some hope at least, LMAO!!!!

trevis
08-28-07, - 06:59 PM
Besides Turks and Caicos doesn't have the landmass that we have in the Bahamas. They will be over-developed in a very short peroid of time.

i don't think that it's so much about land mass as it is with what you do with what you have. if the government apply a little bit of foresight, they can manage with what they have and avoid the reality of over development and therein i believe lies their success. as those of us who are familiar with turks ay know, there is already a large clientele consisting of primarily rich europeans which the bahamas has been trying to court for a few years and even so, resorts in the bahamas seem to be embracing that idea of going after the affluent and wealthy (look at the cove and residence at atlantis).

licks2
08-28-07, - 07:16 PM
i don't think that it's so much about land mass as it is with what you do with what you have. if the government apply a little bit of foresight, they can manage with what they have and avoid the reality of over development and therein i believe lies their success. as those of us who are familiar with turks ay know, there is already a large clientele consisting of primarily rich europeans which the bahamas has been trying to court for a few years and even so, resorts in the bahamas seem to be embracing that idea of going after the affluent and wealthy (look at the cove and residence at atlantis).

True that...but look where it takin us...we most hatta swin in big pond...cos we most een gat no moe beaches! Real estate in New Providence is outta of the reach of people who happens to be paid less that 35 to 40 thou a year!!

Them same people come here and put up them big gates and fancy sites where we can be the domestics..but never the owners!:cool:

babychase1
08-28-07, - 07:22 PM
i don't think that it's so much about land mass as it is with what you do with what you have. if the government apply a little bit of foresight, they can manage with what they have and avoid the reality of over development and therein i believe lies their success. as those of us who are familiar with turks ay know, there is already a large clientele consisting of primarily rich europeans which the bahamas has been trying to court for a few years and even so, resorts in the bahamas seem to be embracing that idea of going after the affluent and wealthy (look at the cove and residence at atlantis).


That is why PI is not accessible to Bahamian like it used to be. They will make em all one by one their own little island... and keep the Bahamians out. The same will happen in TI unless there is some real foreward thinking people.

Jer
08-28-07, - 08:11 PM
Watching the daily news and reading and seeing so much of what is currently taking place in the Bahamas has me very concerned. Some of those very scary issues are
1) Rise in Crime
2) Bacardi pull out
3) Lessening appeal of Nassau/Paradise Island for tourists
4) Grand Bahama's stagnant economy, etc, etc.
Living in Turks & Caicos, just a few miles off the southern Bahamas, we have been experiencing unprecedented growth and when I compare my home with turks, I'm saddened to see what's happening. If the Bahamas does not begin to address some very pertinent issues such as the redevelopment of downtown nassau, re-vitalizing Grand Bahama's economy and tackling crime, I fear that we may very well become the next Jamaica within the next 5-10 years. Turks has definitely taken a page out of the Bahamas' book and they are running with it and should the Bahamas fail to address many issues including the ones i stated above, it is my sincere belief that Turks will become the next Bahamas.
I will admit that we Bahamians are one biggetty set of people and we seem to believe that we are always gonna be on top of things in the Caribbean and that tourists and investors must come to the bahamas; that is simply not so! with the unions and most recently the way in which investors are seemingly being treated by the very people that are parading around nassau saying that the bahamas needs more investment, it is no wonder why investments in the past have made their way to cayman islands and turks to name a few (two in fact that was originally intended for Freeport have come to turks). we are taking too long to make a decision on many major projects and a lot of us believe that if one goes there will be ten more coming because this is the bahamas. i know turks still has a ways to go but look at the statistics because they are up for turks and the bahamas seems to be taking a blow from left, right and center. what was once a relatively unknown place is set to become the jewel in the region as it appears the bahamas is on a downward spiral and turks may become the next bahamas. what do you think?

I heard that Canada had considered the Turks as a possible Canadian territory. Dont know what happened to that idea though.

ching357
08-29-07, - 08:52 AM
Work for a engineering firm. We are flooded with work in the TCI. It is learning from our mistakes and putting a better foot forward that makes them more attractive. Europeans are heavy there and not as much lawyers robbing you and environmentalists, etc. breathing fire at you.
TCI is a nice place but will never be a bahamas and they are far from that.
Over there a person Hummer is biggger than his home,some of the roads are not pave,yes they same to pay alot because the cost of living is high.
The premier is all about himself and foot foot behind his wife tryin to keep up because she don't be there alot.
She will be the first to try and build a movie complex down there.their is no modern small bussiness down there like your mcdonalds,bk,wendy's,no lock smith that i've seen unless they hiding and foreigners own the majority of place there and also there are more foreigners living there than TCI.

islandgyal
08-29-07, - 09:08 AM
a few bahamians are doing better there than they could here, though:

"Phil and Rochelle Thompson own 'Thompson Conch' - a local company that specializes in custom-made cabinets and counter tops created from conch The final furnishings and finishings blend technology with the natural pearl quality of the shell to create an outstanding product available in any colour and ideal for interior decoration."

http://www.tcinvest.tc/manufacturing.htm, the profiled company

shout out to phil thompson of harbour island!

Sunnyjohn
08-29-07, - 09:26 AM
a few bahamians are doing better there than they could here, though:
"Phil and Rochelle Thompson own 'Thompson Conch' - a local company that specializes in custom-made cabinets and counter tops created from conch The final furnishings and finishings blend technology with the natural pearl quality of the shell to create an outstanding product available in any colour and ideal for interior decoration."
http://www.tcinvest.tc/manufacturing.htm, the profiled company
shout out to phil thompson of harbour island!



Goof for them!


T & C is still a decent place to set up shop if you have the entrepreneurial spirit! :tup:

Get in early!

trevis
08-29-07, - 09:52 AM
I heard that Canada had considered the Turks as a possible Canadian territory. Dont know what happened to that idea though.

i believe they (the premier and his government) backed out of it after it was revealed to the public. it appears as if this was a behind the scene talk. the opposition revealed it and the premier denied it then but the canadian high commissioner in jamaica came back and confirmed that it was true and really calling making the premier out to be a liar. i believe the same thing happened when they went without the people's knowledge and applied to join caricom. the premier denied it publicly and later the application was found and the premier subsequently came back and told the people they were withdrawing the application.