Students beat Police. Then threaten teachers.

[YorickBrown]

This issue deserves more than a brief mention. If students are this unruly in their formative years, what kind of citizens will they be once they reach adulthood?

Is The Bahamas headed along the route of more violent caribbean nations? How can we stop this outrageous behaviour? Longer school hours? Reintroducing corporal punishment?

In my personal opinion, the two suggestions that I made above are just the tip of the iceberg towards reclaiming the respect of these little children who think they are "man/woman" enough to strike an adult in a position of authority.

If the Ministers of Education, Social Services and National Security do not put their best people on this issue NOW, we will face becoming even more of a lawless society.

The extended school hours could be used for social development rather than purely intellectual purposes. Social training in areas such as money, family and emotion management could go far in making this new breed of child more responsible as adults.

Would something like these recommendations work? Any other ideas?

[Great Demos]

Grab all the bully-type students and put them through rigorous, disciplinary, boot-camp style training.

The social problems are now too entrenched to just give these "kids" a slap on the wrist!

[canewry]

You know the Bahamas has moved way off course when you can find Bahamian students on the net 'half killing' each other!

Check out this link where two PWH students fighting in their homeroom:

www.dynamobahamas.com/pwh_gyals.mpg

[bahmaboy]

the problem is simply and clear. NO HOME TRAINING. longer school hours dont mean nothin with out home training, it is core to the way a person acts in the social arena.

since the gov cant police people homes and the way they suppossidy raise their kids, there is nothing anyone can do but duck and cover when the spit hits the fan.

[Teniel]

When you have students beating up on police and threatening teachers, then we are simply in a state of anarchy. Students like that need to be hauled before the courts and charged as adults. These kids are in no way oblivious to their actions. Many of them are taking advantage of a system that has become to 'soft'.

I agree with Bahmaboy, these same unruly kids in the schools are unruly kids at homes. Extending school hours will probably only have a minute effect. The government cannot legislate home training, its up to parents and guardians. All the police can do is try to maintain a safe environement for students and faculty in our schools. If that means making arrests, utilizing force then so be it. The end result should be to weed out the unruly and disgusting children infiltrating our school systems, because they serve as a distraction to those that want to learn and acheive.


I also agree with Great Demos, put all of these kids in some kind of boot camp, somewhere on Andros or some rural cay, far away from societal distractions.

[RockWell]

When you have students beating up on police and threatening teachers, then we are simply in a state of anarchy. Students like that need to be hauled before the courts and charged as adults. These kids are in no way oblivious to their actions. Many of them are taking advantage of a system that has become to 'soft'.
I agree with Bahmaboy, these same unruly kids in the schools are unruly kids at homes. Extending school hours will probably only have a minute effect. The government cannot legislate home training, its up to parents and guardians. All the police can do is try to maintain a safe environement for students and faculty in our schools. If that means making arrests, utilizing force then so be it. The end result should be to weed out the unruly and disgusting children infiltrating our school systems, because they serve as a distraction to those that want to learn and acheive.
I also agree with Great Demos, put all of these kids in some kind of boot camp, somewhere on Andros or some rural cay, far away from societal distractions.

We have this program already & the last time I checked it's about a 45% success rate.As to the problem @ home this is NOT always the case.Some of the biggest criminals in our society come from well mannered, structured homes.Now when it come to MORALS that's a whole different ballgame.

[lynette]

I say yet again (and agree with what what said above) Home Training...They have none.

They dont have to be 'bad Kids' at home..but there are those homes where the parents allow them to do whatever away from home and then protect them when they get in trouble....'Not my Son'....'He is a good boy'

Remember the kid that got stabbed at C V Bethel. None of the reports mention that he and the kid that killed him had been fighting on and off for weeks. None of the reports say that he was killed with the knife he brought to kill the other kid...they make it look like he was some poor kid just minding his business when this other renaged kid stabbed him for being in his way....Nothing could be further from the truth.

Haul them before the courts and put them in 'Juvie'...then haul in the parents and make them do some sort of program too.

[Tafadhali]

This issue deserves more than a brief mention. If students are this unruly in their formative years, what kind of citizens will they be once they reach adulthood?

Is The Bahamas headed along the route of more violent caribbean nations? How can we stop this outrageous behaviour? Longer school hours? Reintroducing corporal punishment?

In my personal opinion, the two suggestions that I made above are just the tip of the iceberg towards reclaiming the respect of these little children who think they are "man/woman" enough to strike an adult in a position of authority.

If the Ministers of Education, Social Services and National Security do not put their best people on this issue NOW, we will face becoming even more of a lawless society.

The extended school hours could be used for social development rather than purely intellectual purposes. Social training in areas such as money, family and emotion management could go far in making this new breed of child more responsible as adults.

Would something like these recommendations work? Any other ideas?

We have to take into context yorick WHY this is happening? Because if we don’t it will always continue to happen.

Is it because of the preconceived notions of police victimisation prevalent in this society (my little cousins were taken beaten and harassed by police officers for no apparent reason besides them being two students walking unaccompanied by an adult) and you all know how I feel about police- most of them are blights on Bahamian society who are only here to harass the general public and feed off the public teet.

Or is it because of the moral breakdown in society as a whole- dope dealing superstars pedaling drugs and violence , pro- hate movements by the church pastors and delinquent Christians, and politicians with no moral code of decency or anything to revere or hold in high esteem( this reminds me of the NBA and NFL athletes of the days gone by- them dudes had class style swagger and respect up till now-the niggers playing ball are just a bunch a chumps with money in their pocket no class or style or anything to revere and hold in high esteem; their simply poor minds filled with poor thoughts - SAD, Rasheed Wallace is no Isaiah Thompson ,but I digress ? But then some of our politicians of days gone by were hypocritical in everyway so maybe that point came out my arse- (but it was worth saying anyway)

Or is because of the onset of young suffering mothers and mirage fathers with no guidance and no foundation for their offspring to emulate and build on? I mean children do learn what they live- if mummy and daddy are a bunch of low class jungalist what do you expect?


or let canewry tell it the "Port-Au-Prince" nature of haitian children in the Bahamas

Do ya feel me?

[Rory]

We have to take into context yorick WHY this is happening? Because if we don’t it will always continue to happen.
Is it because of the preconceived notions of police victimisation prevalent in this society (my little cousins were taken beaten and harassed by police officers for no apparent reason besides them being two students walking unaccompanied by an adult) and you all know how I feel about police- most of them are blights on Bahamian society who are only here to harass the general public and feed off the public teet, but I digress.
Or is it because of the moral breakdown in society as a whole- dope dealing superstars pedaling drugs and violence pro- hate movements by the church politicians with no moral code of decency or anything to revere or hold in high esteem( this reminds me of the NBA and NFL athletes of the days gone by- them dudes had class style swagger and respect up till now-the niggers playing ball are just a bunch a chumps with money in their pocket no class or style or anything to revere and hold in high esteem; their simply poor minds filled with poor thoughts - SAD, Rasheed Wallace is no Isaiah Thompson ,but I digress ? But then some of our politicians of days gone by were hypocritical in everyway so maybe that point came out my arse- (but it was worth saying anyway)
Or is because of the onset of young suffering mothers and mirage fathers with no guidance and no foundation for their offspring to emulate and build on? I mean children do learn what they live- if mummy and daddy are a bunch of low class jungalist what do you expect?
Do ya feel me?

its the white mans fault, didnt yall know ..

[Tafadhali]

its the white mans fault, didnt yall know ..

well you should know, one of the first white people I know who took responsibilty for their actions and the consequences there to...their is a God up above answering my prayers.

[canewry]

This issue deserves more than a brief mention. If students are this unruly in their formative years, what kind of citizens will they be once they reach adulthood?

Is The Bahamas headed along the route of more violent caribbean nations? How can we stop this outrageous behaviour? Longer school hours? Reintroducing corporal punishment?

In my personal opinion, the two suggestions that I made above are just the tip of the iceberg towards reclaiming the respect of these little children who think they are "man/woman" enough to strike an adult in a position of authority.

If the Ministers of Education, Social Services and National Security do not put their best people on this issue NOW, we will face becoming even more of a lawless society.

The extended school hours could be used for social development rather than purely intellectual purposes. Social training in areas such as money, family and emotion management could go far in making this new breed of child more responsible as adults.

Would something like these recommendations work? Any other ideas?

Wow I am surprised that no one blamed this incident on the Haitian students...or tiaesq done that already!

[Tafadhali]

Wow I am surprised that no one blamed this incident on the Haitian students...or tiaesq done that already!

you always manage to show how much of an ignorant arse you really are touche

[gian_18778]

Everything stems from the home.


Broken home = Broken Lives = Broken Dreams = Broken Society = Broken Country!


As simple as that.


Sad....

[canewry]

you always manage to show how much of an ignorant arse you really are touche

lol...
We said that about you the other day...
But we were trying to keep it secret, as not to hurt your feelings...
but since you don't have any 'broughtupsy'...
Have the title; its all yours...
I shall encourage the room not to call you such names behind your back from now on!

[Tafadhali]

lol...
We said that about you the other day...
But we were trying to keep it secret, as not to hurt your feelings...
but since you don't have any 'broughtupsy'...
Have the title; its all yours...
I shall encourage the room not to call you such names behind your back from now on!

..and im suppose to care?
for further reference, the thing about me is if i cant say it in someone face i dont say it at all, I guess and I have you and someone else' balls in my hand