Big, Black and Beautiful?

[BAHMIA]

-- See, I don't like this. People say that they will never be skinny because of having a specific body type. Well, remember those pictures of starving children in Ethiopia - or starving people *ANYWHERE* - they were all SKINNY. It doesn't matter which country they show - I have never seen a starving child or person that was not skinny. Which means, that anybody can be skinny if they push the plate away.

Now come on, that's skinny to the extreme. She wouldn't look right without a lil meat on her bones. She'd have a big head, kinda like when Star Jones lost all that weight before she 'leveled' out, (and to me, she still looks strange).

[Ting-um]

Now come on, that's skinny to the extreme. She wouldn't look right without a lil meat on her bones. She'd have a big head, kinda like when Star Jones lost all that weight before she 'leveled' out, (and to me, she still looks strange).

Yes, it is skinny to the extreme. My point being that there is no "body type" that precludes one from being thin. She may not look right weighing 90 pounds - but she also doesn't look right weighing 475 pounds either. I'm just saying that this whole body-type thing is a typical lie that women convince men of as to why they won't diet or workout because of their "body type".

[Truthseeker]

Yes, it is skinny to the extreme. My point being that there is no "body type" that precludes one from being thin. She may not look right weighing 90 pounds - but she also doesn't look right weighing 475 pounds either. I'm just saying that this whole body-type thing is a typical lie that women convince men of as to why they won't diet or workout because of their "body type".

I am convinced that many women don't want to be told the truth. You critique any part of their anatomy, or their dress style or their hair or their eating habits and you are label hateful or inconsiderate. I love black women just as much as I like white women and those in between. I just like my woman to be proportinal to the considered norm. Gabby is far from the norm...or maybe she is, considering the majority of females in the Bahamas are seemingly considerably overweight. Most of us have issues with a little weight gain but Gabby's weight is something deeply psychological IMO.

[Sick Man]

Personally, I find that Ms. Sidibe (Gabby if you will), has fairly pretty features. People just can't get past the fact that she's 'plump'. She could lose a few pounds, but she will never be skinny, or at least not as skinny as Hollywood requires. She just doesn't have that body type.

HUHH???

1-She is FAT, yes a FATTY, big and FAT. Its okay .. fat does not a person make, but lets call a spade a spade.
2-All she has to do is stop eating!! Ones body adapts as one adjusts their weight.

[uncleb]

This is one of the reasons we are so messed up as a society... there is internal and external beauty... sometimes peoples attitude can transcend their physical appearance...I have met people who are outwardly attractive but have such nasty attitudes and personalities that no one would want to be around them.

I think that when people speak about Gabby..her spirit and her personality transcends what people may perceive of her outer appearance....

I like this post! I wont explain it,so Ting-um Ahhhh wellll

[nationbuilder]

Gabby isnt an ugly girl. For her health though, she needs to shed some pounds.

[sf.ponds]

...you know, I think these threads are basically an exercise in narcissism..

Because no matter how many men tell you that you are wrong - you're still going to tell us what we find attractive. Which makes no sense. If I see you eating a slice of pizza - then am I justified in saying that pizza is your favorite food?? That is basically what *THESE* women see and think. This is why men just hit it and quit it. They find you physically attractive - but intelligence and confidence, the characteristics that keep them interested are gone.

this ship may have sailed already...but is pretty, the same as physically attractive and are they both the same as 'sexy'?

If a woman you evaluated as 'ugly' asked you out on date would you accept? or if a woman you evaluated as 'ugly' asked you to dance at a party would you accept? or What if she made you to understand in more subtle ways that she liked you, appeared intelligent...how would you respond remembering that this lady is perceived by you to be ugly?

[Brown Suga]

Gabby isnt an ugly girl. For her health though, she needs to shed some pounds.

For health reasons yes! I'm thinking of all the lifestyle diseases she is a prime candidate for with her weight!

But we have to move beyond defining beauty as waive thin, "light skinned" etc. From seeing Ms. Gabby on her recent press rounds she seems confident and doesn't seem to have self esteem issues. For me beauty goes deeper than the surface - just her confidence and bubbly personality would draw me to her....

Also for a first time actress I thought she did a pretty convincing job in her role as Precious - worthy of a nomination but a win IDK!

[Ting-um]

this ship may have sailed already...but is pretty, the same as physically attractive and are they both the same as 'sexy'?

If a woman you evaluated as 'ugly' asked you out on date would you accept? or if a woman you evaluated as 'ugly' asked you to dance at a party would you accept? or What if she made you to understand in more subtle ways that she liked you, appeared intelligent...how would you respond remembering that this lady is perceived by you to be ugly?

Pretty is not the same as physically attractive and neither means 'sexy'.

Pretty is identified through expression - for example, women express themselves using their eyes, face, hair, hands, feets, etc. Pretty is soft, delicate, dainty, with an element of grace. Pretty is alive. Pretty is soothing. Therefore, you can refer to a pretty face, pretty hands, and other parts as these body parts are used to express emotion, feelings, thoughts. "Prettiness" can be short-lived (you look pretty in *THIS* picture) or extended over a period of time (after 30 years she is still pretty).

Physically attractive however is the degree in which the sum of the parts (typically pretty parts) are appealing. For example, I do find...dam, I can't remember her name.....ummm...Halle Berry - yes, her. I do find her physically attractive - she has a pretty face, a nice body, all of the parts are pretty and together they are physically appealing.

'Sexy' - this does not have to be pretty at all. Which is where a lot of women get confused when they see a man bend over backwards for a woman and they think to themselves "she een even cute". But to him she is sexy. Sexy arouses the passions. Sexy will drive men to conquer, surrender, build, destroy, die, and possibly kill. If in a relationship - the passion dies - the man no longer thinks you are sexy. Women usually give up on "sexiness" because it requires too much effort to maintain. But they think that "romance/passion" should not be correlated to "sexiness". It is....when you stop being sexy...consider it over..

As for your question:

If a woman I consider 'ugly' asked me out on a date I would accept. If a woman I consider 'ugly' asked me to dance - I would oblige. I may not be attracted to her, but somebody else may be. And if I can help build her self-confidence that would inspire her to shrug off other rejection or inspire her to become more physically attractive - then I would. I was considered 'ugly' - in fact I still am - but there is nothing like being able to be seen with someone 100 times more attractive than the women that would typically find me attractive. It is like walking on a cloud and looking down at people beneath as they wonder what sort of magic allowed you to appear weightless, untouchable.

...so yes, I would..

[sf.ponds]

Pretty is not the same as physically attractive and neither means 'sexy'.

Pretty is identified through expression - for example, women express themselves using their eyes, face, hair, hands, feets, etc. Pretty is soft, delicate, dainty, with an element of grace. Pretty is alive. Pretty is soothing. Therefore, you can refer to a pretty face, pretty hands, and other parts as these body parts are used to express emotion, feelings, thoughts. "Prettiness" can be short-lived (you look pretty in *THIS* picture) or extended over a period of time (after 30 years she is still pretty).

Physically attractive however is the degree in which the sum of the parts (typically pretty parts) are appealing. For example, I do find...dam, I can't remember her name.....ummm...Halle Berry - yes, her. I do find her physically attractive - she has a pretty face, a nice body, all of the parts are pretty and together they are physically appealing.

'Sexy' - this does not have to be pretty at all. Which is where a lot of women get confused when they see a man bend over backwards for a woman and they think to themselves "she een even cute". But to him she is sexy. Sexy arouses the passions. Sexy will drive men to conquer, surrender, build, destroy, die, and possibly kill. If in a relationship - the passion dies - the man no longer thinks you are sexy. Women usually give up on "sexiness" because it requires too much effort to maintain. But they think that "romance/passion" should not be correlated to "sexiness". It is....when you stop being sexy...consider it over..

As for your question:

If a woman I consider 'ugly' asked me out on a date I would accept. If a woman I consider 'ugly' asked me to dance - I would oblige. I may not be attracted to her, but somebody else may be. And if I can help build her self-confidence that would inspire her to shrug off other rejection or inspire her to become more physically attractive - then I would. I was considered 'ugly' - in fact I still am - but there is nothing like being able to be seen with someone 100 times more attractive than the women that would typically find me attractive. It is like walking on a cloud and looking down at people beneath as they wonder what sort of magic allowed you to appear weightless, untouchable.

...so yes, I would..

did you mean to say that it is powerful to be seen with women who were 100 times prettier than the women who would not consider going out with you? you many have left out a word. Food For thought. I guess I am left wordless by your openness. i didn't expect it . I did done take out my ferl hat and roll up my sleeve for full grenade combat!

[Ting-um]

did you mean to say that it is powerful to be seen with women who were 100 times prettier than the women who would not consider going out with you? you many have left out a word. Food For thought. I guess I am left wordless by your openness. i didn't expect it . I did done take out my ferl hat and roll up my sleeve for full grenade combat!

Well, I wrote it that way for a reason. Which I guess I need to explain. I never really asked a woman out or approached a woman during my dating years - the years I lived in the Bahamas I don't consider dating years. I was a college athlete which basically means that women literally threw themselves at you. I've never really been in the dating scene so I'm uncertain of the women that would be willing to date me (women I would have to approach). I can only refer to the women that would typically find me attractive (women that have approached me).

[law_abiding_bahamian]

Beauty is subjective. Sure, Gab is beautiful - however, she has a weight issue and no one can overlook that. Now hollywood will tell me that a triple d sized woman who has more plastic surgery then 'Operation' (boardgame ) . Still, I can't fathom why we even care? I stopped watching television. Only garbage comes on.